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GaryB
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Initially Posted - 11/18/2016 :  22:31:36  Show Profile
Hey you guys remember Jim Baumgart (jimB517)?

I see his Pearson Flyer "Sly McFly" is up for sale as of yesterday. Wonder what he's been up to besides winning or placing near the front (unlike when he had his C25)!

http://sailingtexas.com/201601/spearson303118.html

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GaryB
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'89 SR/WK #5862
Kemah,TX
Edited by - GaryB on 11/18/2016 22:42:16

Tomas Kruska
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Response Posted - 11/19/2016 :  05:53:45  Show Profile  Visit Tomas Kruska's Homepage
Wow, very good price. Imagine just the costs of that sails!
Dalpol Phobos 21, 2013, Sole Mio, hull #27, current adventures - We sail Phobos 21

PO of Catalina C25, 1978, High Anxiety, hull #701, SR, FK, L-dinette, inboard diesel Volvo Penta MD2010C w/saildrive - more info
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islander
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Response Posted - 11/19/2016 :  09:19:15  Show Profile
I agree but the 6hp has to go.
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound


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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 11/19/2016 :  10:35:24  Show Profile
A 6 hp outboard motor is the norm for a 30' racing boat. Why? Because a motor is only used on a race boat to get from the slip to the starting line. It isn't usually used for long distance cruising, although I have used my 6 on two 30 mile passages.

Race boats have their bottom scrubbed before every major race, so they aren't slowed by a dirty bottom, like many cruising boats, that are often not cleaned all summer. In short, 6 hp will do what a racer needs it to do.

But, probably most important, racers customarily remove the motor before each race and stow it below. That isn't easy to do on a boat that is rolling and bucking. A 6 hp Tohatsu Sailpro weighs 58 lbs., and it can be removed and stowed inside the boat by one or two crew. By comparison, the Tohatsu 8hp is reportedly the lightest in its class @ 90.4 lbs. The reason for the difference in weight is because the 6 hp is a single cylinder, and the 8 is a two cylinder. Unmounting that much weight and stowing it below would be a nightmarish task while underway. The lightweight, single cylinder engine that can get you to the starting line at near hull speed on 1 or 2 teacups of gas is ideal for a race boat.
Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
previously C&C 35, Cal 25, C25 TR/FK, C22
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Edited by - Steve Milby on 11/19/2016 10:36:12
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islander
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Response Posted - 11/19/2016 :  13:01:23  Show Profile
Every thing you say Steve is true but only pertains to someone that races and just needs a small lightweight motor to get to a starting line and back. Many people around here like fast cruisers, J-Boats primarily. They don't race but just like a fast cruiser boat. I see them all the time on the Sound with there expensive grey/black sails yet pulling a dink and kayaks strapped to the stanchions. I guess its about bragging rights back at the club or dock about how fast his boat is. I have no interest in racing (But do enjoy watching them) If Jims boat was close by me I would be looking at it yesterday. I just have a hard time seeing that little 6hp holding the nose of that 30ft boat into any strong winds, Currents or storms. Remember, Jims boat is going out in the Pacific so for me I would want something a little more robust.
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 11/19/2016 :  15:22:52  Show Profile
I was curious about Jim a while ago and traced him (web-wise) to Mexico where he's living with a Mexican woman, apparently having split with his wife, whom I've met, and (I believe) two daughters in San Diego. Apparently he's still working in IT for the County of San Diego Sheriff's Department, but planning to retire soon, buy a cruiser (C-42?), and head over the horizon. This listing appears to be a step toward that.

Here's Jim.

I knew Jim for a while--sailed with him out of Mission Bay and followed his racing exploits on his C-25. He had some success on corrected time, but got tired of missing all the cocktail parties after ocean races! Thus, the Pearson Flyer.

Regarding the 6hp, as Steve says, it's appropriate for the serious racer. And in virtually any conditions, Jim had sails up and the motor off. I recall him crewing on a new Columbia (?) sport-boat in a race from SD to Ensanada... The boat was lighter and faster than the Flyer, but fanned the flames for owning a hotter boat. The Flyer was affordable--he just needed to upgrade it and train a crew to be able to beat its rating and a particular J-boat that became his nemesis. As the boat now suggests, he was a passionate ocean racer. I'm betting his C-42(?) enters the Transpac one of these years...
Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge
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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 11/19/2016 :  19:29:23  Show Profile
Hope Jim is well and still sailing. His comments were always informative and yes, he hates to lose. As I recall, the Flyer was a move up on a shoe string budget and his initial success was despite aging equipment and, more to the point, because of his sailing skill and prowess. If he does move to a C42 I hope as Dave observes he will do a TransPac and report along the way!
Peter Bigelow
C-25 TR/FK #2092 Limerick
Rowayton, Ct
Port Captain: Rowayton/Norwalk/Darien CT
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JohnP
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Response Posted - 11/23/2016 :  10:36:21  Show Profile
I travel for work a few times a year to various cities, and I sailed with Jim on his C-25 three or four times. Once I helped him deliver an S2 boat from a marina in San Diego to Mission Bay, and on one trip I stayed at a hotel in Mission Bay and walked over to his marina for 3 different outings!

I remember fondly his passion for sailing!
JohnP
1978 C25 SR/FK "Gypsy"
Mill Creek off the Magothy River, Chesapeake Bay
Port Captain, northern Chesapeake Bay
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