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ok, so i bought new chainplates & spreader bracket

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77Gypsy
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Initially Posted - 04/23/2003 : 23:21:12

i bought both upgrades after many recommondations from this forum, i ordered both the chainplates kit and the spreader bracket kit, i received a quote from a trusted rigger in the annapolis area to install that equipment plus step the mast and rig the boat, sails, sheets and all for around $1400.00 is that too high?

Steven de Filippis
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/23/2003 : 23:29:50

Does the $1,400.00 include new standing and running rigging?

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Response Posted - 04/24/2003 : 08:25:14

I've never done the chainplate work, however I would have to say the price sounds really high.

Doing the spreader brackets should take an afternoon, with the bulk of the work dropping and raising the mast.

If the job includes new rigging, as Don Asks, by my estimation, your still paying 800 to 900 for what essentially amounts to labor. Then again, if you are one who doesn't like to do their own repairs, 14k might be your only option.

dw

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77Gypsy
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Response Posted - 04/24/2003 : 11:08:15

no the $1400 is an estimate of about 16 hours of labro @ $70 per hour. this is only replacing the spreader brackets, chainplates, stepping the mast, and rig all running rigging. I went to them because they said they have done this work before on catalinas and they are reputable in the Annapolis area. plus they will have it all done by end of next week. Time is an issue, i haven't sailed Gypsy yet and am itching to go. should i shop around some more?

Steven de Filippis
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/24/2003 : 11:16:48

Steven -

IMHO you could drop you mast with a friend on Saturday and have all the work done by Sunday evening. It would cost you a few beers for your buddy.

Personally, I am one to do my boat work myself. I understand some people would rather have someone do it for them and like the piece of mind that the task is done by a professional. For me, however, 1400 dollars could be better spent for a zillion other things on the boat. Especially when our boat was initially purchased for a grand.

dw

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Response Posted - 04/24/2003 : 12:44:38

Steven,

This sounds like a golden opportunity to learn how easy it is to work on your own boat. For a tiny fraction of that quote, you could buy a couple of books and videos on rigging, and all the tools you'll need. I agree that what you describe sounds like 16 hours labor -- for either a talented amateur or a slow moving professional. I did all this and more to my own mast. It's not all that difficult.

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John Mason
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Response Posted - 04/24/2003 : 13:42:01

Sounds way high to me, but I do all my own work on the boat.

You're talkin' the new chainplates for the lowers, right? Not the bulkhead mounted biggies for the uppers? Basically consists of four fancy bolts through the deck?

So you drop the mast, change out four bolts in the deck, remove two spreader brackets, finagle the compression posts into the mast installing the new brackets and raise the mast again.

I don't see $1400 worth of work there.

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77Gypsy
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Response Posted - 04/24/2003 : 16:28:52

Thanks all of you, you made me shop around some more and i just was in contact with a freelance rigger who will do the whole job for $300.00!!!!!!!! now... what cool toys can i buy with the rest of the money????

Steven de Filippis
78 C25 SR/FK - Gypsy

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John Mason
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Response Posted - 04/24/2003 : 17:48:04

Well, there's autopilots and map-displaying GPS's and good binoculars. Another sail, a bimini, a solar panel, extra anchor, good set of rain gear and boots, cabin heater, underwater video cam.

Or you could use it to go someplace once the upgrades are installed.

John Mason
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ronrryan
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Response Posted - 04/25/2003 : 20:39:57

The Catalina Direct catalog offers two videos quite reasonably. I bought the first one, and have mentioned it to people on the site who were considering running internal halyards and installing pvc pipe for wire runs, as this process is very thoroly described. The second video, as I recall, tells how to retrofit the upper and lower chainplates or bolts. If it is anywhere near as good as video #1, it would be well worth the price to see exactly how to do it. BTW I rebedded one of my lowers and it was no job at all, anybody could easily do it, good luck, ron srsk #2343 Orion SW FL

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Response Posted - 05/04/2003 : 20:48:04

Approx. what year did Catalina stop using the aluminum spreader bracket?

Stewart Eads
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77Gypsy
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Response Posted - 05/05/2003 : 16:08:18

ok, 2 weeks and counting, mymarina is yet to do the work. i would do it myself but it seemed a little too difficult.

Steven de Filippis
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