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jeffj
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Initially Posted - 05/28/2003 : 20:04:04

Ok, I admit this is an oddball question, but here goes. Say you are out with another couple who is bunking in the aft birth, one of them wants to use the head while you are soundly sleeping in the v-birth. How do you keep privacy? I am imagining some sort of door/screen between the v-birth and the head.
Insight would be very appreciated!

Jeff J.
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/28/2003 : 20:20:22

My 1980 C25 has two folding doors, one on each side of the head, to isolate the head from the V-berth and main cabin.

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John G-
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Response Posted - 05/28/2003 : 20:28:10

Jeff,
I would say the concept of “privacy” on a 25’ boat is illusory at best. However my 1985 (#4762) standard rig has a folding curtain (wood) between the main salon (saloon? <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>) and the head and another between the head and the “V” berth so you can close yourself in for “privacy”.
See if aren’t tracks at both bulkheads. If the wood folding curtains are missing you could replace them with cloth.
 

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Response Posted - 05/28/2003 : 21:32:47

We have an old Russian flag an four cup hooks. You can hang the flag over either the V berth or salon side of the opening, or in a pinch you can hang side to side across the head itself. Best we can do.

Doug - #1913 Noeta

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Response Posted - 05/28/2003 : 21:47:33

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
We have an old Russian flag an four cup hooks. You can hang the flag over either the V berth or salon side of the opening, or in a pinch you can hang side to side across the head itself. Best we can do.

Doug - #1913 Noeta
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Is that an “iron” curtain? <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Sorry.
 

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Response Posted - 05/28/2003 : 21:56:21

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Is that an “iron” curtain?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

John,

You funny! <img src=icon_smile_clown.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Dave B
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Response Posted - 05/28/2003 : 22:28:18

Let's just face it... You four had better be VERY close friends. <img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>

We have the two folding wood "doors"--just about enough privacy for my wife or myself, but not much more.

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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OJ
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Response Posted - 05/28/2003 : 22:30:40

This reminds of the time someone asked how many the Catalina 25 sleeps comfortably. I sensed he already knew the answer and was testing to see if I'd exaggerate as so many do on this topic. So, I replied "COMFORTABLY? NONE!"

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triley
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Response Posted - 05/28/2003 : 22:46:14

Amen to OJ on privacy!

Tom

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ddlyle
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Response Posted - 05/28/2003 : 23:36:14

If someone's taking a leak it doesn't matter.
If they're takin' a dump, everyone to the cockpit.

Cap'n Dave
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/29/2003 : 00:03:48

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>If someone's taking a leak it doesn't matter.
If they're takin' a dump, everyone to the cockpit.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

<img src=icon_smile_dead.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 05/29/2003 : 00:11:40

Here is an idea I had not seen before. When I bought my Alberg I found its head area no bigger than the C-25. It has a sliding door on the head side of the aft bulkhead. Its mounted on a track and its realy a slick idea. The forward bulkhead had a swinging door that closes off the v berth. Its hinged on the port side. Swung shut it closes off the head swung open it closes off the head when not in use. When the head is in use the aft slider is slid shut and the v berth door is swung shut. I would be glad to post pictures if anyone is interested in looking at this set up for possable pilfering to use on the C-25 see next post for a few pic's I just found. I will take more.

Doug&Ruth
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Tacoma Wa.<img src="" border=0><img src="" border=0>

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 05/29/2003 : 00:20:44

<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2cc10b3127cce93693a7aecc10000001610" border=0> sliding door is on the left
<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2cc10b3127cce93693a32ec890000001610" border=0> swinging door (forward) can be seen in the center.
<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2cc10b3127cce93693a30ec8b0000001610" border=0> Forward door is shut.

Doug&Ruth
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/29/2003 : 00:36:22

Nice pictures Douglas.

<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2cc10b3127cce93693a7aecc10000001610" border=0>

Could you mount that toilet paper holder any higher? <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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jeffj
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Response Posted - 05/29/2003 : 01:14:17

Ask a silly question, get a silly answer! Seriously though, I like Doug's pics. I think I learned something from all the answers and that is to block off as much as possible, and then tie up to a dock instead or anchor if possible<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Thanks as always.
P.S. My wife and I busted up over Cap'n Dave's "thoughts".

Jeff J.
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/29/2003 : 09:00:57

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
My 1980 C25 has two folding doors, one on each side of the head, to isolate the head from the V-berth and main cabin.

<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>Don Lucier<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>
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Pictures Don? We made a new table this year and have some left over mahogany that we were thinking of making I door (hinged in the center so it can fold out of the way) I could use some motivational photos.

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/29/2003 : 09:04:07

Easiest way is to teach your women to hang it over the side. The next easiest way is to hang two curtains. Go to the local Joanne Fabric and pick up a nice peice of fabric. Hang two rods, one above the v berth one above the entrance to the cabin and sew a hem into the fabric. take a few left over pieces and make a tie about waist high, screw that into the mast post with a wood screw and a finishing washer. Tie it off when not in use.

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
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Response Posted - 05/29/2003 : 09:48:44

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Pictures Don? <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

The doors I was referring to were the stock vinyl accordian curtains that came with the boat, I just didn't word it properly.

Doug has got me to thinking about a swinging door to close off the V-berth one way and the head the other.

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Response Posted - 05/29/2003 : 10:37:14

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>

The doors I was referring to were the stock vinyl accordian curtains that came with the boat, I just didn't word it properly.

Doug has got me to thinking about a swinging door to close off the V-berth one way and the head the other.

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We have a 4 foot by 25" piece of Mahagony. I am not sure of the exact with of that opening, but was thinking that if we cut the piece in half and add teak trim and hinge it on the compression post and downt he middle I could have a nice divider. According to the carpet drawing that area is 28". If I can make up an inch and a half on molding. Add a 1/2 inch mounting strip to attach the main hinge to the post and have a quarter in between both hinges and another half inch strip for a jamb on the other side I might be able to make this work. Back to the drawing board...

dw

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/29/2003 : 10:38:56

After looking at the drawing again, I might not even need to squeeze that much space out of it, since I have the dinette interior?

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Response Posted - 05/29/2003 : 22:18:11

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>We have a 4 foot by 25" piece of Mahagony. I am not sure of the exact with of that opening, but was thinking that if we cut the piece in half and add teak trim and hinge it on the compression post and downt he middle I could have a nice divider. According to the carpet drawing that area is 28". If I can make up an inch and a half on molding. Add a 1/2 inch mounting strip to attach the main hinge to the post and have a quarter in between both hinges and another half inch strip for a jamb on the other side I might be able to make this work. Back to the drawing board...<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Hey, I think you are onto something here! <img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Dave B
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Response Posted - 05/29/2003 : 22:42:41

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
After looking at the drawing again, I might not even need to squeeze that much space out of it, since I have the dinette interior?
<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>
I think the bulkhead and opening are the same--the compression post is certainly in the same place (below the mast)...

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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Response Posted - 05/30/2003 : 00:31:05

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Easiest way is to teach your women to hang it over the side.
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Pictures Duane <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle> ?

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Response Posted - 05/30/2003 : 08:30:09

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Easiest way is to teach your women to hang it over the side.
<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Pictures Duane <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle> ?
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No pictures, however both my wife (admiral) and Harvey's wife (commodore)race competitively. Much more competitively than I do (Rolex Campaign, Annapolis, Key West...) and on the boats they race, its either a bucket which the user has to rinse, or over the side. I've actually never seen it, but I understand that it can and has been done.

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
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Response Posted - 05/30/2003 : 09:34:43

My boat has the original bamboo folding doors both fore and aft in the head.
I'm reluctant to replace them since they're original, but they do get in the way when I squeeze through. (Take up 2 or 3 inches of valuable space of my beam.)
So if I were choosing doors or curtains, I would absolutle go curtain material. Cheaper, lighter, thinner and material is soft if I bump into it.

Cap'n Dave
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Response Posted - 05/30/2003 : 12:19:03

I've heard that the Whitbread crews wish that the boat designers should have to crew for at least one leg to see just how uncomfortable their boats really are.

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