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tinob
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Initially Posted - 06/01/2003 : 14:31:10

Hi all,

The Admiral has decided that we will tour the Ocean City area the end of June for a few days. We haven't a clue where to stay or what to see, and so we beseech y'all to inspire us, so that this encounter will not be a total folly. How that could possibly be confounds me...they have crabs, right?

Well that's all I'm into this for, the Admiral on the other hand, has money burning holes in OUR pockets, so don't skimp in your
pronouncements.

Lets see the Nationals are on the thirteenth,fourteenth and fifteenths. Fathers day. Kids are still in school. Mom is still at work. I'm the retired one responsible for those above. So what was i thinking when I suggested we (northeasterners) share a motor home and trek to the nationals...Some day maybe but this one...NOT.

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Response Posted - 06/01/2003 : 19:02:59

Val: Nothing against Ocean City, but in the same neighborhood, have you ever visited the Eastern Shore of the Chesapeake? A neat place to stay there, in our experience, is the Robert Morris Inn at the end of the main street in Oxford, MD--which also has the best crab cakes in the universe. From there you can take a little car ferry across to the next peninsula to visit St. Michaels and the Maritime Museum. Oxford is the sweetest little town you'll ever see, with masts sticking up above the houses in virtually every direction. St. Michaels is more touristy... The Inn at Perry Cabin in St. Michaels is the premier inn and restaurant on the Eastern Shore. Just look at a map and try to imagine better sailing grounds! If you work it in on the way home from Ocean City, it'll be an amazing change of pace.

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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Response Posted - 06/01/2003 : 19:12:01

Can you get to Ocean City via Catalina from the bay?? What about any barrier island type areas south of Ocean City such as Chincoteague, Wachapreague, Pungoteague, and other such teagues and preagues? I've been told you can go down to bottom of the bay and creep up the ocean side of the Delmarva peninsula via inlets protected by islands. This is hard to believe but it sounds like an amazing trip if true.

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Response Posted - 06/01/2003 : 19:44:02

Val: Ocean City is pretty booked through the summer season. Your best bet would be to work through one of the online travel sites to find available rooms. I know OC pretty well; have cousins who operate businesses there; etc. It's wonderfully tacky. We like Rehobeth better, and it's more accessible by sail via Lewes, just inside Cape Henlopen on the DE Bay. If you want something more specific, email me.

bsmudd: you can travel between the Chesapeake and the Delaware Bay via the C&D canal. You have to motor through the canal -- no sails allowed. I think it's twenty-three miles long, between the Elk River and the Delaware Bay at the northern end of the DelMarVa penninsula.

I would strongly recommend against trying to navigate the inlets around the barrier islands on the seaside down in Virginia. The constantly shifting shoals require local knowledge, and the flats are very shallow. On the Virginia Bayside, the only creeks I'd recommend trying to enter are at Cape Charles, Occohannock Creek, Pungoteague, and Onancock Creek. The town of Onancock is gorgeous: I would highly recommend visiting there. We have friends with a B&B on Occohannock Creek, and my sons work at a camp at the mouth of that creek.

I haven't stayed at the Robert Morris in many years, but always found it very overpriced. I do have a story about eating there years ago at a table next to Bill Veeck, who bought us a bottle of champagne. I had no idea at the time who he was. . . .

We like the B&B's better in St. Michael's, like the Parsonage Inn. There are also some nice B&B's in Oxford, whose names I can't remember.

I lived on the Virginia Eastern Shore for 8 years, and all my family lives on the Maryland Shore. If you want some suggestions, let me know.

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Response Posted - 06/02/2003 : 10:34:37

Ocean City gives me the creeps! Think Las Vegas on the beach filled with pre-teens! I much prefer Rehoboth DE, where I spend every other weekend. It's got everything you need in life: beach, fine restaurants, bars, shopping. All within walking distance.

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Response Posted - 06/02/2003 : 11:28:45

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> I much prefer Rehoboth DE, where I spend every other weekend. It's got everything you need in life<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

. . . except sales tax. DE has none.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

I agree that OC is like Las Vegas. . . which is also tacky. The beach is better at OC than at Rehobeth, unless you go up to Cape Henlopen State Park, or go south to Bethany.

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Response Posted - 06/04/2003 : 22:09:27

As a former "Balti-moron" I can vouch for OC's bad reputation, especially downtown. I spent my summers there as a "pre-teen" until I settled down. Deleware is much nicer. Although I haven't been back in 10 years, I'm sure Bethany is still nice.

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Response Posted - 06/05/2003 : 08:10:32

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>As a former "Balti-moron" I can vouch for OC's bad reputation, especially downtown <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Tray: which section of Bawlamer did you grow up in, and when? I graduated from Parkville High in '69.

I never thought, even in the old days, that "downtown" OC was all that bad (10th street was the big teen hangout in the 60's). I've always thought it was incredibly, and sometimes charmingly, tacky. Walking the Boardwalk at OC is like a carnival sideshow. I've thought about setting up a photo booth and grabbing certain people and asking to photograph them . . . and I don't mean because they were so stunningly beautiful! I've suggested there should be a swimwear police (pronounced in Bawlamer, "PO-leece"): "Excuse me, ma'am, you can't wear a two-piece swimsuit. Sir? Can I see your license to wear a speedo?"

But Dolle's fresh caramel popcorn and Thrasher's french fries with vinegar are to die for.

Bethany is more grown up than thirty years ago, but still upscale and quiet. Everyone should also know that Rehobeth is the beach town of choice for the gay community.

Additionally, I would recommend staying away from Chincoteague (by the way, pronounce it "Shink -uh-TEEG" to keep the locals from smirking) the last week of July for pony penning. Fifty thousand people (literally) crowd the island for a nine minute swim. If you really want to see ponies swim the gut, go a week later when they swim back and no one is watching!

Val, have we scared you, or intrigued you? Or both?

Brooke

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Response Posted - 06/05/2003 : 08:22:30

Scared me is right. I'm more comfortable in my fetal position. My wife claims it's for the kids, wonder if she includes herself in that group. At any rate I'm indebted to y'all for your input. It seems that she's made reservations in Oxford and St.Michaels, and then off to Hershey Park. How's that for self-flagellation? It had better be raining and blowing back home...the thought of missing serious sailing for the above would seriously grate.

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Response Posted - 06/05/2003 : 10:24:33

Val, you and your family will enjoy St. Michaels. Oxford too. The (living) museum and the nautical atmosphere are worth the time spent.
Have a nice time and let us know about what you see there.
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Response Posted - 06/05/2003 : 13:55:41

Should I survive the excursion I'll post our exploits.

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Response Posted - 06/05/2003 : 14:33:45

Val, I don't know how old your kids are. They might have enjoyed the amusements of OC more than Oxford. On the other hand, you will enjoy the shippiness of Oxford and St. Mike's before the pandemonium of Hershey. Have fun!

Brooke

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Response Posted - 06/05/2003 : 19:39:44

Val: I forgot that this was more than you and your wife--I guess I can't imagine an old fart like me having young kids. I have to agree, after recommending Oxford and St. Michaels, that the former has little to offer for kids, and the latter is just a little better. We like these towns enough to be exploring a move there (or to Chestertown, MD just north of there), but we're looking for peace, relaxation, and interesting sailing grounds--not a place to let kids burn off their energy.

Hope I didn't misdirect you--in fact, I think somebody else may have logged on as me to post that recommendation... <img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>

However, I'll stand by my recommendation for the crabcakes at the Robert Morris Inn--nothing comes close!

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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Response Posted - 06/05/2003 : 20:23:21

"Excuse me, ma'am, you can't wear a two-piece swimsuit."
This was once said to Bridget Bardot on the beach in Estoril, Portugal soon after the bikini was "invented". Her response "which piece would you like me to remove?" <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Response Posted - 06/06/2003 : 08:43:22

Sorry Dave...didn't mean to misrepresent myself and family...I'm seventy two and the kids are twelve and seven, mom is somewhere between myself and the youngsters.

The kids will do well wherever they are. The elder is cum laude and the younger is very loude. Not run amok types.

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Response Posted - 06/06/2003 : 11:13:17

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>"Excuse me, ma'am, you can't wear a two-piece swimsuit."
This was once said to Bridget Bardot on the beach <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Bridget Bardot was NOT the body I had in mind in creating a swimsuit police!

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I'm seventy two and the kids are twelve and seven, mom is somewhere between myself and the youngsters. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Val, you stud! I am SO impressed!

Brooke

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Response Posted - 06/06/2003 : 21:18:36

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Sorry Dave...didn't mean to misrepresent myself and family...I'm seventy two and the kids are twelve and seven, mom is somewhere between myself and the youngsters.

The kids will do well wherever they are. The elder is cum laude and the younger is very loude. Not run amok types.
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Val... You didn't misrepresent--I just forgot about some comments you had made some time ago regarding your family--school activities and such... I think you'll all enjoy seeing the Eastern Shore, and the promise of Hershey Park for the kids will take care of everything! (You'll enjoy their enjoyment!) Let me (us) know how it works out--I feel personally responsible now!

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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Response Posted - 06/08/2003 : 10:47:02

Brooke,

I graduated from Loch Raven in '87, then moved downtown to Charles Village, then Bolton Hill before joining the Navy. My brother has relocated from Bolton Hill to Canton.

I spent one summer living on 10th street in that blue house on the corner (3 back from the boardwalk). I also spent a summer on 5th street.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Everyone should also know that Rehobeth is the beach town of choice for the gay community.
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Is that why the landscaping, architecture and design are so nice there?<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Response Posted - 06/09/2003 : 12:51:10

Ah, Tray, you're a mere child (Loch Raven in '87).

I grew up one block east of Harford off Putty Hill.

My cousin owns the 64th street shopping center in OC, and runs the supermarket there. If you lived on 10th street, I'm sure you have MANY interesting stories to tell!

As for Rehobeth's appearance. . . I'm not touching your explanation with a 17 foot whisker pole.

Brooke

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Response Posted - 06/16/2003 : 15:06:15

Ok Ok heres the really-reallys of the Delaware shore.
Best sailing- Rehoboth Bay out of Dewey Beach. While it is shallow and best suited to a centerboard boat, it has 10 to 15 knots throughout August. There is the Rusty Rudder, Crabbers Cove, and the Lighthouse. All Dewey bayfront bars,there are more, but not that you can get your boat to. The daring can motor through the "ditch" to the Indian River Bay, go out the Indian River Inlet, and sail right up the beach to Cape Henelopen, enter Roosevelt Inlet, and motor through the canal ( 2 bridge openings) back to the Rehoboth Bay. The sail up the coast is always (and I mean always) with the company of dolphins. The motor through the ditch includes bald eagles, erns, and lots of herons. It takes from 7 to 9 hours and is perfect.
Out for Cocktails? If you are under thirty Dewey beach is very STRAIGHT and the wildest place I have been for a long time. There is everything from the preppy to the Christina Aguilara types, and there are tens of thousands of people partying in a ten block area. I should mention that the whole town is an isthmus two blocks wide with one block oceanside and the other bayside.
Out for dinner? Want good family fare or a unique dining experience? Rehoboth has them both covered as well as anywhere. The town could best be described as tolerant. Yes there is a large GAY contigent. There is also a large FAMILY contingent. Wait a minute, while I am arguably not normal I am definately straight as are most but not all of my friends so I would have to say there is a large straight contingent too.
I have been going with my family since childhood and accompanied the children of my brothers sisters and girlfriends on the boardwalk and rides and would recommend it to anyone.
Bethany? Great place for young familys. Not as interesting, but definately quaint seashore.
Lewes, another good place to take kids. With wild dunes and a shallow lapping beach ( bayside) it is a safe way to introduce the young to a large body of water.
Finally, if you are arriving by boat, the Rehoboth Bay Marina on Collins Street in Dewey Beach while a bit loud is reasonable and convenient. there is a trolly that runs to Rehoboth every 30 minutes and again, you can walk to the other side of the street to get to the ocean.

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Response Posted - 07/03/2003 : 16:00:49

Hi all,

Just got in...and am I glad that I thought to ask here about OC.

If you said the Robert Morris Inn has the best crab cakes in the world, TAKE A BOW, I may go back just for them. The kids loved the kayaking and the room and the town, repeating over and over, " I could live here happily".

Day two was spent at St. Michael's, the Key West of the n'east, and as enjoyable. The Boat Museum was something I'll never forget, The kids were in shock, expressed, " where's daddy, is he lost, the little one was sure I had died. Mom led them ( astray) to the novelty shack. I had never seen a large log built boat under construction...didn't know the technique existed. And who ever heard of a sink boat? Those watermen of the 'peake were something else. What a clever bunch.

Unfortunately the Crab's Claw's crab cakes came in a distant second to the Morris'. Ordinary best describes them. Third place in the crab cake derby went to an otherwise delightful buffet at the Hershey Lodge. I knew they were crabs because of the shell, nothing else indicated their origin.

Now, I'm probably exibiting my lack of knowledge on the subject but the Chesapeake has got to be the best sailing grounds in the U.S. I love the Great South Bay of Long Island, but surely it's not a great bay in the same sense of the word when used to describe the Chesapeake, man that's a BAY!!!

The folks at Weeks who venture out from time to time for distant shores to a man/woman, have all said that I should sail the Chesapeake. I'd love to.

Thanks for your recommendations as well.

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Response Posted - 07/03/2003 : 18:28:47

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
If you said the Robert Morris Inn has the best crab cakes in the world, TAKE A BOW,...

Day two was spent at St. Michael's, the Key West of the n'east, and as enjoyable. The Boat Museum was something I'll never forget...
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Well, that may be the first correct opinions I've offered on this forum--glad it worked out!

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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Response Posted - 07/03/2003 : 22:14:21

Glad you had a good time.
I agree about St Michaels ... I was there last Spring ... what a wonderful spot

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Response Posted - 07/04/2003 : 08:41:42

Val, glad you had such a great trip. Those of us who live here feel blessed to be in "The Land of Pleasant Living."

Next time, come to the big (southern) part of the Bay, where the water is bigger and the towns (on the Bay) are smaller. As for REAL crab cakes, I doubt you can beat Mrs. Crockett's on Tangier Island. Tangierenes (local joke) don't know how to put any filler into crab cakes: they're pure, undiluted crab. Another interesting thing about Tangier is that they clean the crabs BEFORE they cook them (soft or hard). As a friend of mine asks, "Doesn't that make the crabs really mad?"

If any of you are ever traveling up or down the Shore on Rt. 13 across the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel, ignore first impressions and stop to eat at the Cape Center, about 5 miles north of the bridge. Locals call it "Chez Exxon." The seafood (always order from the specials board) is stunning: easily the best restaurant on the Virginia Shore. Their rockfish stuffed with imperial crab is unbelievable.

Brooke

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Response Posted - 07/04/2003 : 11:28:57

Hi Brooke,

I don't know where to begin. Perhaps to agree is the best point of departure. Who could possibly disagree with the claim of being blessed with pleasant living. You all are indeed blessed to have such an incredible environment to live in, and blessed even more so for the history you share with your countrymen.

Mrs. Crockett's you say. I've got to believe you but can't imagine better than the Inn's baked/not fried cakes. The technique used in cooking the cakes seems to make the difference. Baked over fried every time.

Your mention of the bridge reminds me that the PS to my post regarding the scariest dang structure we have ever encountered was not included in the post. Should have been. The one from the eastern shore to Annapolis ( are there any others?)seems to have been designed by a committee that couldn't make up their minds. Both in structure and in direction. It seemed to start off in one direction and then half span turn a few degrees north and change design. It's probably me, I hate bridges, don't trust them. If GOD ment for us to traverse water that-a-way why'd He let us invent sailboats<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>. You can bet on one thing, I'll never cross that contraption again.

All in all it was a fun trip for the family, my penance being Hershey but I'm of a mind that anything good has it's price.

Thanks again for your input, it made the trip what it was, fantastic!

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