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has anyone seen these sail ties?

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karentc
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Initially Posted - 06/25/2003 : 11:34:33

Hi

A friend I crewed with purchased some sail ties at the Chicago Boat Show a couple of years ago that I loved. Of course her boat is drydocked and sealed up for another season so I can't even look for the label. I have searched high and low to find out what brand they were or where to get them (inrernet, catalogs, etc) and no luck. They looked like webbing (red or blue) but were stretchy, long enough to wrap twice around the mainsail and had velcro on them so they were super easy to use. Does anyone know who makes these or where I can get them???? Thanks!

Karen Christensen
Moondance 1986 C-25
Grand Traverse Bay

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 06/25/2003 : 12:18:10

Karen - I bought mine at West Marine. They are navy blue stretchy webbing with loop velcro on one side, yellow hook velcro on one end, and a nylon loop at the other. Came in a package of four, and they are very convenient to use.

Follow-up: Guess they decided to remarket them as fender straps:
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=6304

J.B. Manley
Antares #4849 '86 FK/SR
Grand Lake O' The Cherokees
Northeastern Oklahoma

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Dave B
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Response Posted - 06/25/2003 : 23:35:48

I got the same set from West--a variety of lengths. I don't see them in the new catalog, but I think I'd prefer the buckling ones that are in there. The velcro straps aren't as adjustable--one wrap can be too loose, and two wraps too tight. If they're tight, be careful releasing them--they can whip around and catch you in the face. <img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 06/26/2003 : 11:17:45

We must have slightly different versions, Dave. Mine have loop velcro running the full length, so you have infinite latitude (perhaps that should be longitude) in adjusting tension. What I like most about these ties, over conventional sail ties, is that the nylon loop at the bitter end allowed me to hang the ties on my reefing line. Since I singlehand almost exclusively, it's nice not having to grab, hold, and ultimately drop sail ties. The ties are doubled back on themselves and hang from the boom while I'm sailing. They never hang up on anything and I don't notice them at all.

J.B. Manley
Antares #4849 '86 FK/SR
Grand Lake O' The Cherokees
Northeastern Oklahoma

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 06/26/2003 : 11:21:16

I hope that little metal loop is very good stainless steel. If not you might be looking for trouble with sail stains.

Doug&Ruth
Triska (Alberg 29)
Tacoma Wa.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 06/26/2003 : 17:36:01

I replaced my sail ties with a shock cord run the length of the of the boom. An eyestrap at each end, then lashing hooks and eyestraps alternately approximately 24" apart - mounted on the bottom of the boom.
It remains on the boom permanently. No tying - just stretch the shock cord around the flaked (or rolled) sail and hook it on the lashing hooks. Very quick and no sail ties to store and retrieve.

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Dave B
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Response Posted - 06/27/2003 : 00:11:28

OJ: That's my favorite solution--I had it on our last daysailer, but haven't put it on the C-25. The teak and the queen-sized bed come first... Then the 12v outlet, the solar vent, the reefing line, new interior lights and wiring, anchor roller, vang,.......

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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allencl
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Response Posted - 06/27/2003 : 00:12:58

We do as OJ does- I call it a centipede.

<img src="http://home.ptd.net/~allencl/pics/centipede.jpg" border=0>

-Chris on "SPIRIT" C25 SR WK #5644

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Dave B
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Mali
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Response Posted - 06/27/2003 : 00:18:37

That's different, Chris... OJ's uses hooks on one side of the boom, and the shock cord running along the other side. You pull sections over the sail to the hooks and get diagonal ties. (Right, OJ?)

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 06/27/2003 : 10:06:21

Using your topping lift downwind to keep the sail shape 'full'?

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25

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OJ
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Response Posted - 06/27/2003 : 21:01:22

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
Using your topping lift downwind to keep the sail shape 'full'?
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Man, what an observant bunch <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> !

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allencl
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Response Posted - 06/27/2003 : 21:07:14

Gotcha Dave- I pictured what was familiar when reading OJ's description and missed his point.

Clam, you can't tell in the photo, but the topping lift is loose and not doing anything at the moment. The boom is kept down w/ the boom vang (used as a preventer by attaching to a stanchion) as well as a second preventer line running forward to a bow cleat. If the main seems particularly full it's because it's blown out and needs replacing...

Cheers,

-Chris on "SPIRIT" C25 SR WK #5644

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 06/27/2003 : 23:09:13

OJ wrote... "Man, what an observant bunch !"

CBeach replies.. "Well, what did you expect?
We are PROFESSIONALS here".

(at what I don't know)

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25

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