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I've seen that before... They're doing sea trials where they crank it up full ahead and go hard to port and hard to starboard--to see whether she'll take the stress. Howdja like to be on that flight deck?
Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> I think that little slick to port is the other guy.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> You mean the mast sticking up off the starboard side, about amidships? Some yachtsman must've fogotten he didn't have his sails up...
I once drove directly under a carrier that was going out of Norfolk--I was in the tunnel--saw him dead ahead as we descended. He wasn't moving like that, tho...
Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> I wonder how many gallons, or tons, it took to paint it. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> ...and how do they pick it up to paint it??
Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT
Guy's, don't make light of the operations depicted.....you're paying for it. Wonder if the wing commander was due for his landings to stay qualified and they wanted to make it interesting for him....<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>You mean the mast sticking up off the starboard side, about amidships? Some yachtsman must've fogotten he didn't have his sails up...
I once drove directly under a carrier that was going out of Norfolk--I was in the tunnel--saw him dead ahead as we descended. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>
Dave, I once listened on Channel 16 to half of a conversation between the officer of the deck on the TR in the Elizabeth River (Norfolk) and a woman in a sailboat who insisted she had right of way. The officer tried to explain to her that she did NOT have right of way over a draft-impeded vessel in a narrow channel. I met a guy later that day who had heard both ends of the conversation (I was so far away all I could hear was the TR because of the height of its mast). I asked him what happened, and he said, "You know how Navy ships used to paint on their superstructures how many subs and battleships and destroyers they had sunk? Now they paint sailboats."
When we lived on the Eastern Shore, I had friends who worked in the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel who said that when the big ships pass over the tunnel, the workers in the tunnel can feel the pressure changes in their ears. <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> When we lived on the Eastern Shore, I had friends who worked in the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel who said that when the big ships pass over the tunnel, the workers in the tunnel can feel the pressure changes in their ears. <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> Hmmmmmmmmmm..... Can you 'splain the physics of that one, Brooke? Anybody? My explanation would be overactive imaginations, possibly enhanced by the pulses from the props.
Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Hmmmmmmmmmm..... Can you 'splain the physics of that one, Brooke? Anybody? <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>
Hmmmmm....How about the workers were working underwater in a flooded portion of the tunnel when the ship went overhead and...naaaahhhh that won't work!
As I read the thread I thought I picked up some converstaion about right of way? Who in their right mind would worry about it? Even if swailing in open ocean, I would avoid a ship like that, because of the damage it would do to me and the damage I wouldn't do to it.
It is an awesome picture tho'.
Don Peet c25, 1665, osmepneo, sr/wk The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY
I dunno, Don... I recall Charles Wall saying his C-25 did a lot of damage to a Bayliner (or something like that) in a mooring field during a storm... <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle> On the other hand, I don't remember where I read about the freighter that steamed into Singapore with a mast and flapping sails hanging from the anchor--didn't know about it until another captain called up the ship's captain on the radio.
Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT
Ya' but those boats arn't armed like an aircraft carrier! <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>
I still wouldn't challenge one if I could avoid it.
On a cruise to Bermuda a couple of years ago, two kids on jet skis came up the starboard side of the ship, and when they had gotten a few fet in front started zig-zagging back and forth. I just pictured one or both of them falling and being wiped by ship that couldn't stop.
sometimes discreation is the better part of valor.
Don Peet c25, 1665, osmepneo, sr/wk The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY
On a lighter note, a friend of mine on a chartered C30 in San Diego dipped his ensign to an aircraft carrier (a nautical no-no, but he has a wierd sense of humor!). He said he's never seen such a chinese fire drill on their flag deck as they scrambled to respond!! Derek
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Hmmmmmmmmmm..... Can you 'splain the physics of that one, Brooke? <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>
Nope. That's why I transferred out of engineering school at the end of my first year in college. The tunnels aren't flooded (I know you were kidding, Don, but anyhow. . . ) because those tunnels aren't actually "underwater". . . they're under the bottom of the bay. Maybe there's enough pressure caused by such huge displacement passing overhead. . . I dunno.
All I can say is that these were sane and sober people who all had the same experience.
And with respect to people being incredibly stupid about right-of-way, it apparently happens a shocking amount of the time. Here on the Chesapeake, for example, it is not unknown for boats to cut between tugs and a barge, apparently forgetting there's a tow cable connecting the two. Some years ago some celebrity's son was killed near Annapolis by doing exactly that. I never underestimate the stupidity of other people on the water (even sailors!).
The wind direction was parallel to the tunnel The ship is so big that it blankets the wind and creates a low pressure area around the leeward tunnel entry....thus sucking the air out of the tunnel....
Yes, no, maybe?
On a serious note, I give anything commercial a wide berth. They're out there trying to make a living, working against the clock. I'm on vacation, they don't need me in the way. Also, sometimes the yachties get them in a bad mood by doing something stupid.....and since they're bigger and more scratched up than I am, I don't want to be the next thing to get in their way....<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Should licensing be made mandatory? Or maybe, at least, boater education of some kind?
Will education motivate one to act more responsibly? <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote> Education and a certificate saying you've had it are required in CT. It seems we now have fewer morons on this side of Long Island Sound (except the ones from NY), but LI Sound is pretty big, so traffic is rarely a problem. Although few people in our harbor understand the mid-channel markers we have--all people can remember is R-R-R, so everyone is going both ways on the same side of the street.
Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT
I seem to recall that several states, and I believe NJ is one of them, bring you up on DUI charges when boating under the influence, and there's plenty Marine Police out on the lakes. It's a somewhat effective deterrent. Is there a lack of enforcement on Lake Allatoona, or a lack of legislation?
Dave, is there an age cutoff in CT? How about visiting out of staters?
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