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seads
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Initially Posted - 07/12/2003 : 22:29:42

Since I am always asking for advice on this board, I though I'd give a little unsolicited feedback for a change. I took my boat out today for the first time with its CDI furler and Cruising Direct 135 Genoa. It was also my first time singlehanding. I have to say that I was very impressed with both the furling system and the sail. I'm not sure what you get that's better if you pay your local North Sails guy $2000 (vs. about $600 for mine). The sail looks well made. In sum, the furler/sail were about $1,100 total from Cruising Direct and the investment seems definitely worth it especially for single handing.

Stewart Eads
"Osprey" 1982 FK/SR #3408
Charleston Harbor, SC

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Response Posted - 07/13/2003 : 10:58:17

Hey Stewart,

Thanks for the advice. I too am looking for a furler, after I find the bucks to pay for it.

I live about 6 hours away from Charlston, and am considering trailering my 25 there in October. Can you give me any advice on a deep ramp, and maybe a place to get a transient slip for a few days, and a place to park a truck and trailer? I am also considering taking a course from the sailing school there.
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Frank
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rwdutton
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Response Posted - 07/13/2003 : 15:17:45

Frank, Stewart, and any others interested
We installed a new CDI furler on Puff this Spring. We ordered it from Catalina Direct (I cannot say enough good things about those folk). The installation instructions were clear and after measuring five times vs. the regular three we cut the extrusion and attached it with no problem. We ordered the ball bearings as well, and she handles beautifully.
I am still trying to figure out how to run the line at the bitter end of the run (not quite happy with a block on the track and a cleat, but have not created a better way yet.)

Bob Dutton
"Puff" 1984 FK/SR #4336
Westport, CT

Bob Dutton
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Response Posted - 07/13/2003 : 16:51:37

when I do get a furler it will be the new Schaffer 700. They call it the Maxi Furl. It is made for trailerable sailboats in the 26 to 28 foot range. It is a lot heavier duty than either the Schaffer 500 or the CDI furler. I especially like a round extrusion. My enginneering background teaches me that a round section has more strength than a square section in torsional loading. I forget what this value is called, but it has to do with sectional modulus.

Catalina direct is working up a kit for the 700, and they will let me know when the kit is ready.

I'll probably wait until winter when everything goes on sale

Frank Gloss
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Response Posted - 07/13/2003 : 20:50:17

Bob:

If I understand your question correctly, here's what I did: I ran the furling line through stanchion mounted leads, placing the leads on all the stanchions (swiveling on the 2 pulpit rails, non-swiveling on the actual stanchions) then put a stanchion mounted cleat (an 'Aladdin' I believe) on the last stanchion with a lead, about a foot above the lead itself. That allows me to turn the line up from the last lead, cleat it off, and hang the excess line from the cleat too, neatly out of the way.

If I didn't answer your question or if you don't follow my convoluted answer above, let me know.

Stewart Eads
"Osprey" 1982 FK/SR #3408
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Response Posted - 07/13/2003 : 21:26:31

Stewart,
I wasn't very clear was I? I used the stanchion leads provided by Catalina Direct ... I also have a block near the stern through which I run the furling line and then to a cleat. The position is awkward, and there must be a better way to get an advantage on the line to pull it in when furling. I know I should not cause the line to make too many angles, so I am still playing with the position of the leads and the final block. I would be interested in hearing about other setups.
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Bob Dutton
Puff #4336 84 SR/FK
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Response Posted - 07/13/2003 : 21:37:47

Bob,

I used and a set of blocks secured to the stanchion bases and a small cam cleat mounted forward of the jib sheet winch (right at the edge of the "step" in the coaming) to secure the line. Works fine for me, and I don't have the ball bearings in my CDI.

Eric Werkowitz
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Response Posted - 07/13/2003 : 22:29:43

Bob:

I see and that is a very good point...I have noticed that it takes some force to get the sail to furl, especially when the wind is really blowing as it was here today. A block would certainly help with that, although once the drum starts turing it seems to gain monentum which makes the rest of the process easier than at the start. We do have the ball bearings which helps I think.Eric's line arrangement souds similar to mine.

Stewart Eads
"Osprey" 1982 FK/SR #3408
Charleston Harbor, SC

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Response Posted - 07/13/2003 : 22:42:25

why would you care whether or not you would be upsetting neptune?

<s> you make me think of a very angry anime character that i know of, which by the way is the reason for my user name, not becuase i consider myself an experienced sailor. to tell the truth i dont. </s>

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Response Posted - 07/14/2003 : 06:11:19

Stewart,
So your furling line will h ang from the stancion? Is this the one next to the cabin?

I am planning on installing a jib downhaul before I get a furler this winter, and will use the same routing as the future furler

Thanks

Frank Gloss
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Response Posted - 07/14/2003 : 13:11:39

BTW, I outran a Macgregor on my way back to my marina Saturday..I know that's not saying much, but as a Catalina 25 owner I have to take it where I can get it!

Stewart Eads
"Osprey" 1982 FK/SR #3408
Charleston Harbor, SC

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