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Wogman
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Initially Posted - 07/22/2003 :  18:06:46  Show Profile
I have the "old school" Gin Pole mast raising system, and although it works I've never been comfortable with it, so I'm contemplating an upgrade. For those of you with the Trailrite Trailer Mast Raising system, would it be possible to get a review on the tool and a description? Illustrations or pictures would be much appreciated.

Paul
C-250WB #83 Sundew
Folsom Lake, CA
"Don't Give Up The Ship"
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bear
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Response Posted - 07/22/2003 :  19:27:05  Show Profile
Wogman, I don't think our older C250's are compatible for the trailer raising system, I believe there is something in the way of doing this. I sent Trailrite an "E" mail asking this very question and never got a response. However somewhere on this thread this was answered anyway. Incidently three of us do the mast raising with the second halyard, pretty sucessfully with no difficulty.
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Oscar
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Response Posted - 07/23/2003 :  22:31:52  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
The trailerbased system works great for me. It's truly a one person job, and is safe and effortless. The only restriction is that the boat has to be on the trailer. Ie, you can't lower the mast in the water.

Here's a picture of the boat with the system hooked up. I will take a detailed picture of the actual rig tomorrow, so you can evaluate whether it can be retrofitted.

Does the old system have the temporary "baby stays" to steady the mast laterally as it goes up/down? The shrouds are not tight enough to support the mast laterally untill the mast is almost all the way up.

<img src="http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/Images/familypics/LadyKay3.JPG" border=0>

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 07/24/2003 :  09:21:57  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
OK, it's daylight.

It appears to be a bolt on scenario, with one hole to be drilled for the diagonal brace:
<img src="http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/Images/familypics/Forumshots/mastrig2.JPG" border=0>
<img src="http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/Images/familypics/Forumshots/mastrig1.JPG" border=0>
<img src="http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/Images/familypics/Forumshots/mastrig3.JPG" border=0>

Hope you can see all that. Now as far as what Trailrite is going to charge you for the bits....

God Luck,

Oscar
250WB#618 Lady Kay on the Chesapeake:
<img src="http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/Images/familypics/Forumshots/chesapeake.jpg" border=0>


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Wogman
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Response Posted - 07/24/2003 :  11:34:58  Show Profile
Oscar~
Your pictures are very helpful and, to me, it appears a retrofit is
possible, of course dependent upon cost from Trailrite. The early Gin Pole system does use the baby stays.

Curious about the details with the roller at the top of the trailer gin pole, and the bridle/attachment point to the mast. Any elaboration on those items would be greatly appreciated.

Paul
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Oscar
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Response Posted - 07/24/2003 :  21:39:34  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
The pole telescopes. Pull the pin, raise the pole, put the pin back in. Galvanized steel, looks like 1/8". Not the lightest thing in the world. The roller is permanently mounted on top of the pole.

You then pull out the winch strap all the way (the same winch you use to pull the boat out of the water) and reroute it over the top roller. There is a strap, a woven piece with two loops at the end. It goes around the mast just under the spreaders. Then there's a piece of regular line that, with two bowline bends (as in knots), connects the strap to the winch strap. The main halyard connects to a loop at the midpoint of the strap, and when tightened keeps it from sliding down the mast. Very important, I messed it up, the halyard slipped and kabang.....the mast dropped the last ten feet. Luckily it landed on the aft support and only bent it slightly.... could have been worse.

The strap around the mast is good, but IMHO not mandatory. Any decent piece of line will do.
Oscar
250WB#618 Lady Kay on the Chesapeake:
<img src="http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/Images/familypics/Forumshots/chesapeake.jpg" border=0>





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Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 07/25/2003 :  00:35:30  Show Profile
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> the mast dropped the last ten feet. Luckily it landed on the aft support and only bent it slightly<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

The mast or the support?

Bryan Beamer
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Oscar
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Response Posted - 07/28/2003 :  11:47:38  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
<img src="http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/Images/familypics/Forumshots/mastsupport.JPG" border=0>

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