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TomA
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Initially Posted - 07/24/2003 :  17:14:17  Show Profile
In this month's Sail Magazine there is an article about equiping a pocket cruiser. The author is interested in reducing his amp consumption and uses an oil anchor lamp.

In prior years, the catalog companies have said these lamps are not coast guard approved. However, I noticed that no such statement is made in the current West Marine catalog.

Has there been a change in policy? Does anyone know if using an oil anchor lamp is okay?

Tom


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ronrryan
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Response Posted - 07/24/2003 :  22:17:18  Show Profile
Cant comment on current law, suggest call Coast Guard. In a past life I taught seamanship for the Power Squadron. Told class story of a sailor, asleep in his boat, Guest battery powered anchor light hung up on forestay as all of us have done so many times years ago. Drunk powerboat guy comes along at speed, smashes into him, property damage and personal injury. Powerboat guys sues, saying the light, although visible and bright, failed to meet the two-mile Coast Guard rule. He wins. Should have beentaken out and shot, but he WINS. This gave me pause, as I had used the same light for many years. Now and then the bear gets you, I guess, regards ron srsk Orion #2343 1981 SW FL


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ronrryan
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Response Posted - 07/24/2003 :  22:17:27  Show Profile
Cant comment on current law, suggest call Coast Guard. In a past life I taught seamanship for the Power Squadron. Told class story of a sailor, asleep in his boat, Guest battery powered anchor light hung up on forestay as all of us have done so many times years ago. Drunk powerboat guy comes along at speed, smashes into him, property damage and personal injury. Powerboat guys sues, saying the light, although visible and bright, failed to meet the two-mile Coast Guard rule. He wins. Should have beentaken out and shot, but he WINS. This gave me pause, as I had used the same light for many years. Now and then the bear gets you, I guess, regards ron srsk Orion #2343 1981 SW FL


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ronrryan
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Response Posted - 07/24/2003 :  22:17:49  Show Profile
Cant comment on current law, suggest call Coast Guard. In a past life I taught seamanship for the Power Squadron. Told class story of a sailor, asleep in his boat, Guest battery powered anchor light hung up on forestay as all of us have done so many times years ago. Drunk powerboat guy comes along at speed, smashes into him, property damage and personal injury. Powerboat guys sues, saying the light, although visible and bright, failed to meet the two-mile Coast Guard rule. He wins. Should have beentaken out and shot, but he WINS. This gave me pause, as I had used the same light for many years. Now and then the bear gets you, I guess, regards ron srsk Orion #2343 1981 SW FL


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ronrryan
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Response Posted - 07/24/2003 :  22:18:00  Show Profile
Cant comment on current law, suggest call Coast Guard. In a past life I taught seamanship for the Power Squadron. Told class story of a sailor, asleep in his boat, Guest battery powered anchor light hung up on forestay as all of us have done so many times years ago. Drunk powerboat guy comes along at speed, smashes into him, property damage and personal injury. Powerboat guys sues, saying the light, although visible and bright, failed to meet the two-mile Coast Guard rule. He wins. Should have beentaken out and shot, but he WINS. This gave me pause, as I had used the same light for many years. Now and then the bear gets you, I guess, regards ron srsk Orion #2343 1981 SW FL


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ronrryan
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Response Posted - 07/24/2003 :  22:20:16  Show Profile
sorry about repetitions, either computer idiocy or computer hiccups, ron


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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 07/24/2003 :  22:23:32  Show Profile
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sorry about repetitions, either computer idiocy or computer hiccups, ron
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RichardG
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Response Posted - 07/25/2003 :  01:19:49  Show Profile
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Does anyone know if using an oil anchor lamp is okay?
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While not scientific, you could hang it up and go out 2 miles to determine if you can see it, but I'd guess it would be tough to see. But it may also be difficult to see the stock 12v anchor light at the top of my mast from 2 miles.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Should have been taken out and shot, but he WINS.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

Another reason to load up on liability coverage.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 07/25/2003 :  10:14:36  Show Profile
I'd call West Marine customer service and ask them...

IMHO stuff as far as anchor lights... I think your choice of light location should consider your sailing venue. If your primary risk is from small powerboats, a masthead light may be ineffective (too far off the water) for them to notice unless they are looking up & etc...

If your primary risk is larger vessels, a masthead would be better.

I'd posted a story here before about a guy who got t-boned by a drunken powerboater on Clear Lake (CA)... bottom line is that he now lights his boat up like a floating city when at anchor.

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25

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TomA
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Response Posted - 07/25/2003 :  11:30:35  Show Profile
I took your advice and called West Marine. They contacted the manufacturer of the anchor lamps and were told the USCG has not approved any oil lamps for anchoring or navigational purposes. So there we have it.

I guess we'll have to look elsewhere for ideas to cut electrical consumption.


Tom




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Ellis Bloomfield
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Response Posted - 07/25/2003 :  11:35:32  Show Profile
I also can't comment on legality but my boat came with one of these small lanterns and I use it on Superior. It's amazing, it has a quarter inch wick which burns about a quarter high flame behind a Fresnel lens (the same type that used to be used in lighthouses). When anchored close to other boats it appears to put out at least as much light as the electrics. I run it up the jib halyard with a line down from the bottom to tie it away from the mast. I'd probably think twice about using it in a high traffic area.
Ellis


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77Gypsy
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Response Posted - 07/25/2003 :  14:36:08  Show Profile
I'm not sure of the legality. however, i've hoisted a flashlight a few times as a 360 degree anchor light, i would hate for the oil lamp to fall and start a fire.

Steve
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skipn809
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Response Posted - 07/25/2003 :  23:50:21  Show Profile
I bought a quality oil lamp, I anchor out of the traffic way and kick back and relax.

Skip 1985 C-25 T/R #5121 "Corporal Punishment" N.E. Mo.

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