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Free Willie
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Initially Posted - 09/03/2003 : 00:38:07

I'm the new owner of a C25 SK/SR.It's still on the trailer and I would like to raise the mast up at home before trying it at the ramp.I've experience raising the mast on a Venture 21, but the C25 looks like it needs a little thought. I'd appreciate any advice in stepping the mast and first launch. Thanks Ray.

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skipn809
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 : 01:52:40

Get at least 3 guys with good backs to help you.

Skip 1985 C-25 T/R #5121 "Corporal Punishment" N.E. Mo.

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 : 05:31:54

Lots of previous threads on this subject. Try a search for "mast raising" by clicking above.

I raise my standard rig fairly easily with one other person; sometimes my daughter. My mast crutch extends up and locks in place with the mast relatively high up....maybe 7' or so off the cockpit floor. Keep aft lowers and uppers attached but loosened a bit. I use a long line (60"?) on the boom vang to raise mine. attach one end to the jib halyard (cleated off), and the "control" end at the stem fitting. I stay on the coach roof and lift like mad for just a few feet. After the rig is up more than 45 degrees or so, the job is easy and the "vang runner" can pull her up with just a little help from the "lifter". A third person is helpful to watch for snarls and snags.

Other guys use a gin pole, or variations of a "Huntington rig". Pictures and photos abound. If you have a tall rig, it's a bit trickier, but not usually as bad as your fears. Use caution; have extra folks around the first time or two.....g'luck

Gary B.
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Happy D
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 : 06:44:21

Make sure there are no power lines around.

Dan 1977 sk/tr# 0029
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mtiffee
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 : 07:51:33

Here's how I raise my tall rig.

3 people - 1 on the jib halyard, 2 on the boat.
The mast is laid aft.

tie a long line to the jib halyard so one person can walk far forward of the boat.. the further the better.
2 people raise the mast on the deck as the jib halyard person walks back.. once the mast reaches an angle, the jib halyard person can get some leverage on the mast and bring it up.

MOST IMPORTANT! make sure your backstay is attached, so your mast doesn't go all they way through. Also make sure at least your upper shrouds are attached.. but I'd also attach the aft lowers.

A fourth person can be helpful to help clear any lines that get caught on winches, cleats, tillers, etc.

Mike
'89 TR/WK "Freelancer"
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 : 10:26:04

I attach an 'extension' line to the jib halyard, run it through a block temporarily attached up on the bow and back to a coaming winch.

As one person boosts the mast up, the helper grinds on the winch.

That way you can pretty well stop anywhere you want and look things over. Once the mast is started up, the person raising the mast mostly functions to stabilize it side to side.

Some temporary side stays (motorcycle tie downs) from the mast track ring to athwart the mast base can help a lot. The hot setup is one of the A-frames described in other threads.

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25

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Steve Kostanich
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 : 13:18:26

Willie,
I agree with what Gary B. says, have a tall mast crutch. When I first got my boat I made a crutch that I could just get the mast onto, and I am 6'-4". The angle was high enough that my wife and I almost thru the mast up it was so easy. I have since shortened the crutch a bit to make more storeable.
We do it with the backstay disconnected and let the aft lower shrouds stop the forward movement. Myself and another "big guy" stand on the cabin top and simply "huff" the mast up. We have to watch like a hawk to make sure the rigging does not snag as the mast is going up. Once past 45 degrees the hard work is done. One guy pulls forward to keep the mast up while the forestay is connected, then the backstay and the forward lower shrouds are attached. This is all on a standard rig, I don't know if you could do it on a tall rig.

Steve Kostanich C-25 1119 Equinox sr/sk moored Oly., WA.

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 : 15:49:11

BTW, congratulations on the recent addition to the family. I'm sure you will love her very much!

I have my marina operator raise and lower my mast. Makes it very easy for me.

Don Peet
c25, 1665, osmepneo, sr/wk
The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY

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deastburn
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 : 17:16:36

Congratulations!

Try goiong to Tech Tips, and clicking on "Nokomis", "Not Yet--Huntington Rig" and "Windblown" for three approaches to mast raising.

Also there was an excellent thread on the subject earlier this summer if memory serves by Don Lucier and others. A system using two ten-foot one-inch ganvalized lectrical conduit pipes bolted together at one end and bolted to the forward lower shroud chainplate at the other. Clip the jib halyard to the top of the triangle and run a line through a block at the bow back to a winch in the cockpit and it seems possible one person can do the job. I have just purchased the materials and am making my own version of this rig. The boat yard here charges $8.50 per foot for stepping (no tuning involved)!

Dave on "Wood Duck" (#2616)

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deastburn
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 : 17:41:45

I mis-wrote. The author of the "tripod system" was Buzz Maring, who got it from "Bear's Abode" in the Tech Tips section. http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2434

Dave on "Wood Duck" (2616)<font color=blue></font id=blue>

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Response Posted - 09/04/2003 : 01:40:11

My wife and I raise and lower our mast easily. We start with a crutch about 5 feet tall sitting on the floor of the cockpit strapped to the stern rail. We have rigged a block and tackle and stretch it out and snap one end to the jib halyard, the other to an additional snap shackle at the bow of the boat. My wife takes a couple turns around the halyard winch and takes in the line while I lift the mast. The (I guess) about 6 to 1 purchase of the block and tackle combined with the winch make it fairly easy for her to actually lift the weight while my main function is to begin the intial lift and maintain balance side to side. There is a tense second or 2 when the time comes for me to scramble from the cockpit to the cabin top when the mast is a bit wobbly side to side. We have found that a good strong pull at that instant keeps the mast raising straight. Once the mast is all the way up (we leave the backstay attached and tensioned)she cleats off the bitter end of the block and tackle, while I liesurley attach and adjust the forestay and forward lower shrouds. The 2 of us have done this countless times without a hitch.

Chris Hunsicker
Panama City FL
Moonglade
80 C25 #2126 sr/sk
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SALTY SAILOR
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Response Posted - 09/10/2003 : 23:44:10

The method refered to by Dave works quite well. I have a tall rig and can raise or lower the mast with no help in less than an hour. I connect the forestay to the top of the triangle and the mainsheet connects between the bottom of the triangle and the bow. This gives you a mechanical advantage when raising the mast. The main and jib halyards connect to a bridle that is connected to the bottom of the stanchions. One bridle on each side. This stabilizes the mast sideways.

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