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Ben
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Initially Posted - 09/11/2003 :  13:40:54  Show Profile
Hi All,

I'm looking for a curtain-burner for my boat, which didn't come with one. In the for sale section of this area someone is selling an alcohol stove. Below is his description. Does it seem worthwhile to buy. Having no experience with alcohol stove, any advice is appreciated.

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the stove was in the highway wreck of our Catalina 25, I believe it is very salvageable. It has one edge of the top frame that is slightly bent, easily straightened. One of the alcohol pots has a small dent in the top seam. Since this isn’t pressurized I am not worried about it, should hold alcohol just fine. Also the grill/grate on top of the stove has one bracket that was severed. I planned to spend five minutes and the hardware store and 15 minutes at the workbench fabricating a simple two inch L shaped bracket with two holes to fix it. Could use a stainless two inch “L”shaped stainless bracket from West Marine if you want to over kill it. Other than that, it was hardly ever used, is very clean, in fact I don’t think there is even any burnt areas or food residue, it may have never been used. The former owner of the boat had a microwave, I think he mostly used that. A new Origo is about $200 from West Marine if I remember correctly, ½ for a used item would be $100, I was thinking $50 buck due to the damage. It really is quite clean. Buyer would pay shipping, should be $5-10. Let me know ASAP, I am getting inquiries on quite a bit of the stuff 1st day of the add.


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JimB517
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Response Posted - 09/11/2003 :  14:25:35  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
I have a Coleman 2 burner propane stove that uses those little bottles. You can buy one new for $50 to $75. In my area, they are sold at Target. It fits where the old alcohol stove was. Mine is held down to a pine board with small wing screws. The board is fitted where the old stove was, leaving a nice shelf underneath.

A much better stove in my opinion.

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Ben
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Response Posted - 09/11/2003 :  14:28:02  Show Profile
I actually have that too, Jim. But I've always been afraid (maybe irrationally) of gas sinking into the bilge. I always keep the propane can in the little locker on the starboard cockpit sink for that reason. I have always thought it would be nice not to have to worry about the gas.


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TomA
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Response Posted - 09/11/2003 :  14:40:00  Show Profile
Ben, I just replaced my curtain burner with an new Origo 3000. The price was closer to $300 than $200. The old stove works, but I must admit that I like the new one much better.

If you're willing to pay the postage, I'll give you the old one, as I now have no need for it. (My wife also explained that it's taking up space in the garage).

Tom


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deastburn
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Response Posted - 09/11/2003 :  14:47:01  Show Profile
Ditto the Origo--I bought mine from Johnson Sails for 300, plus another sixty to West marine for the gimbal kit. Is the one you are writing about a 2000 (one burner unit) or a 3000 (two-burner unit)? I use a propane grill (Magma) and keep the propane cylinders in the cockpit cubby holes, where they cannot leak into the boat. The small cylinders frequently leak after their first use, so I have never wanted propane below decks. I recommend avoiding propane unless you intend to do the full install. Origos are NOT curtain burners. Seaward Pricesses ARE, and should be avoided (see my thread from July on the boat fire caused by a Princess stove and an inexperienced crew member.

Dave on "Wood Duck" (#2616)


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TomA
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Response Posted - 09/11/2003 :  14:52:42  Show Profile
Dave, My old stove is a two-burner model. It has the gimbal attached, but I kept the stainless steel box for use with the new stove.

Tom


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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/11/2003 :  16:47:30  Show Profile
Just a comment: "Curtain burner" is the group's reference to the Princess pressurized alcohol stove that was an option on the C-25 and many other boats of that time. The reference is to the flare-ups caused primarily by improper use--many here will tell you that if you follow the instructions carefully, you will avoid those little surprises. That wasn't good enough for me--we replaced ours with an Origo, a non-pressurized unit that is simple, safe, and perfectly adequate for the near-gourmet meal--more than adquate for eggs and coffee.

The description is apparently of the non-pressurized Origo. A few dents shouldn't affect its operation, although I'd try to straighten the dent in the top of the pot, since it could POSSIBLY hinder fully shutting off the burner (which is done with a sliding baffle over the pot opening). The 2-burner unit is $300 at West and $275 at Defender.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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skipn809
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Response Posted - 09/11/2003 :  20:35:10  Show Profile
I say go for it. I paid $50 for a new single burner Origo on the sale bench, when I bought my boat, to replace the pressurized stove on board. It went into the trash bin. I hardly ever need 2 burners and went with the single because it is less to fill, and I use the space around it for utensil storage. I kept the shell and the stove sat in it like it was made for it.

Skip 1985 C-25 T/R #5121 "Corporal Punishment" N.E. Mo.

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Bill Sloane
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Response Posted - 09/12/2003 :  12:01:29  Show Profile
I like the look of the original alcohol stove on the Catalina and it fits in the space,(which I could not do with my Coleman propane stove) but with the grateful help of a fellow Catalina websiter, I converted the alcohol stove to propane. It is so much better than alcohol and heats faster. I too store the little bottles of propane in the cockpit locker.

Bill Sloane

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