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Oscar
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Response Posted - 03/03/2004 :  09:44:49  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
Regarding class constraints....does it have to be manufactured by Catalina? Or does it have to be of similar dimension to what Catalina offers/offered...(I,II,III) Are you restricted to what was offered during your production period/came with the boat? What about modifications? (balancing) Lot of legal ground to cover here....

Oscar, in Austin TX, making bu's.

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jeanetcarole
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Response Posted - 03/03/2004 :  19:22:32  Show Profile
I own a very early model and have the first generation rudder. The measurements are 58 inches overall and 30 inches water level line.
Hope this is helpful to you all.

Jean Dallaire
Cashalo
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 03/04/2004 :  09:56:47  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
The current rule says that the rudder has to come from an approved mold and I guess that would have to be a Catalina mold unless another manufaturer was approved by the association.

That said, racers are so hard to come by...that I don't think race officials would turn anyone away. At last years Nationals, a centerboard c250 used a 150 headsail which was a rules stretch far greater than who made the rudder.

There are now six different rudder possibilities from Catalina for the C250... the concept of one design is in my opinion gone. With cracked rudders from Catalina and no beaching offering, I think the door ought to be open for competition to get the rudder mess right.

I wouldn't be saying this if Catalina had gotten it right or was making it right... but they are fixed in their course not to offer a beaching rudder on a boat who's character fits it. The centerboard design should have a beaching rudder offering and one with adequate lift for a variety of sailing venues.

Mac, Hunter, Seaward all offer beaching rudders. If Catalina doesn't want to offer that, we should have the option to freely make that choice with another manufacturer without concern about racing issues. Those who might purchase another rudder, should have the option to do so from a manufacturer that might get the rudder right.


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Dkn420
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Response Posted - 03/04/2004 :  10:09:48  Show Profile
Arlyn: Perfectly stated!

Dan #727

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 03/05/2004 :  11:11:06  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
Hear, Hear. I agree that there is not a whole lot you can do about a rudder to cheat yourself into a win. It would be nice to write it into the class rules somehow though.

Oscar
250WB#618 Lady Kay on the Chesapeake

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