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frog0911
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Initially Posted - 10/17/2003 :  23:38:24  Show Profile
Any one have a diagram or pictures of the masthead setup for a drifter halyard? What size rope? What size block? Does it run inside or outside the mast? Thanks

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 10/18/2003 :  00:10:31  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Frog... that would depend on which furler you have?

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 10/18/2003 :  06:50:51  Show Profile
The furler on Penny II is a snapfurl. The boat jib halyard is used on the sail from what I can tell. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 10/18/2003 :  08:53:13  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
I'm winging it a little with my advice about the snapfuler as I think it requires a method to lead the halyard back away from the furler to the mast. This is typically a block or fairlead of some sort down a short distance from the mast truck.

The drifter that has been produced by Ulman sails is a full dimension luff which it seems to me would have a problem dealing with the jib harlyard. I've raised this issue before and never got an answer on it so its likely not a problem or is dealt with in some way.

I would suggest discussing this with who ever makes your drifter. I see a couple of possibilities. If the sail has a full luff, it could be tacked like an asymmetrical ahead of the stay and handled by a spinnaker halyard mounted on a masthead crane (a forward extending attachment to the mast truck) in order to get the halyard forward enough to clear the furler.

The second method would use a drifter with a slightly shorter luff and require that the turning block that is used to turn the jib halyard aft to the mast be a double sheaved block to also accept the drifter halyard.

Have I made sense?

As far as the halyard size, quarter inch would work for a drifter halyard, the blocks would not need to be very heavy.




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frog0911
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Response Posted - 10/18/2003 :  20:49:02  Show Profile
I understand some of it, but the rest is mush to me. I have a diagram of the masthead, but cannot figure out how to get it on a thread. I will EM to you and you can see the snapfurl setup.

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 10/19/2003 :  12:57:14  Show Profile
Frog, I have cdi-ff4 and when I use the drifter, I simply use the spinniker halyard, which is an internal halyard.

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Response Posted - 10/19/2003 :  15:55:42  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
One more try at it with a pic....
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frog0911
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Response Posted - 10/19/2003 :  21:59:52  Show Profile
Got it all this time. As the saying goes "a picture is worth........". Thanks

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