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SteveMcHugh
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Initially Posted - 10/20/2003 : 21:30:10

I have noticed a substantial leak in the aft part of the quarter berth coming from under the cockpit where it joins the transom. The only possibility I’ve seen is where the cockpit drains through the transom. Has anyone had a similar leak?

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Kip C
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Response Posted - 10/20/2003 : 22:33:02

Have you hosed down the coaming compartment lately? If so, check the upper inside of the coaming box for any openings or gaps. Just a thought.

Kip Casada

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 10/21/2003 : 11:57:54

Steve, thanks for calling the quarter berth and not the after birth. Did this when I bought my boat, and sales guy thought it was hilarious! I didn't get it at first!

(No Arlyn this is not a blooper, spelling was intentional, here anyways!)

Don Peet
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f_sondergaard
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Response Posted - 10/21/2003 : 13:34:52

Ours leaked in the same place and it did turn out to be the cockpit drain. I didn't take the drains out, but I did seal around them. It seems to be holding for now!
Jason and Fran
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SteveMcHugh
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Response Posted - 10/21/2003 : 20:05:49

Thanks for the replies. I’ll try sealing the cockpit drains this weekend.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/21/2003 : 22:17:35

Steve: It always helps to know the vintage of the boat. In this case, the older boats have skippers through the cockpit sole, and the newer ones have transom drains. Each creates its own issues. You can go to the Profile link above and add a "signature" that describes your boat--year, rig, and keel are generally the most significant variables.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" on the hard in SW CT

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 10/22/2003 : 13:03:10

Leaking around the cockpit drain at the sturn is a tipical problem. Mine did it too. DONT use silicone. Use a bead of white Sikaflex. You can find it in small tubes at West Marine. $8 or so.

Doug&Ruth
Triska (Alberg 29)
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Raskal
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Response Posted - 10/22/2003 : 18:33:54

Steve, I've been wrestling with the same problem and am about to make that one of my big Fall/Spring projects. Since I've also done a lot of work on that inside area of the quarterberth let me describe in detail what you'll find:
My 1984 C25 has the transom drains, 2 thin bronze tubes pushed through holes in the transom and flanged with some type of tool at the factory on the cockpit side. In front of the drains on the cockpit side are a seemingly illogical rectangular depression which holds annoying amounts of dirt and water because the mold was made for the original floor scuppers, which drained downward. Every time the hull flexes in motion water trapped in the depression can work its way under the flanged edge and seep down the liner wall into the quarterberth.
The simplest way to deal with this is resealing the cockpit side edges of the flanges, or perhaps taking them out and reflanging if they're bent. I'm looking at a more radical fix, such as replacing the tubes, but they're larger than the standard 1" size found in the catalogs and difficult to find. Plastic scuppers are another idea, but there isn't much room on the cockpit for whatever they will screw into.
Inside the quarterberth some improvements can be made; the decorative trim pieces way in back are actually acting as a crude gutter to spill the leakage back toward the locker (the shelf has a slight incline to port). What's really needed back there, however, is to put some kind of barrier all around the air space where the deck molding and liner meet on the shelf. The barrier (foam, caulk, bathtub strips, you name it) needs to extend a little bit into the locker side past the wooden locker bulkhead to keep water from rotting the left side of the bulkhead. (Making a really effective repair on the drain tubes will make this unnecessary!)
My advice for the whole the quarterberth/locker area is unscrew the wood trim, remove the bulkhead, and see how everything really works back there. You'll be apalled at first at the cheapo engineering, but then you'll know what needs to be done. Your locker bulkhead is probably rotting anyway, so it may as well become part of the project...

Rich Kokoska

1984 C25 FK/SR #4603 "Coolatta", Groton, Conn.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 10/22/2003 : 19:28:51

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You mean, they have kids running back and forth or some captains with their heads sticking out? <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Yep... its added!

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Response Posted - 10/22/2003 : 21:14:43

There is nowhere to hide....Arlyn "The Blooperman" Stewart will find you.......<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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SteveMcHugh
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Response Posted - 10/24/2003 : 20:10:40

Thanks for the good advice and insight. As a new sailor and boat owner this form is invaluable.

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