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Oscar
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Initially Posted - 10/30/2003 : 22:05:03

West Marine has a very cute light in line water pump with a knee/foot switch. I was thinking of using two T's to parallel plumb this in the water supply line under the galley cabinet floor. With a shutoff in the "bypass" closed, the water would be running through the pump.

My question is would the water come out of the existing faucet (ie push open the ball or valve) without damaging the hand pump?

With the bypass open, the hand pump could still be used as before.....Also, using the existing faucet saves $$, and I won't end up with holes in plain sight....

The electric pump with manual switch would also be very useful in emptying the tank. for trailering/winterization.

Oscar
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Lady Kay IV, Dragonfly 25 # 54 Former C30#618-C250WB#618-C42#76

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 10/30/2003 : 23:04:24

Oscar,

I was trying to get an answer to this same question a while back; never did. Guess you and I will find out together the first time we hit our switches next spring.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 10/30/2003 : 23:18:24

Not sure which you have, but if the same as mine... the answer is yes.

I know because I use a pressure fill system for filling my water tanks...and when filling them, I have to either close the valves to the faucets or lift them fully open to stop the water flow.

Mine don't have the handle pump...mine are pumped by the barrel. If I can find a pic...I will add it.

Edited by - Arlyn Stewart on 10/30/2003 23:25:11

Oscar
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Response Posted - 10/31/2003 : 09:38:13

Looks like we've got the same faucet....(and the same tea kettle for that matter

)

Cool, I will proceed and publish the results here.

Oscar
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Edited by - Oscar on 10/31/2003 09:41:10

sailgal
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Response Posted - 10/31/2003 : 10:03:31

I'll be awaiting the result of your install. I've been looking for a way to drain the water tank (I know Blaster Pump was mentioned some time back by a very wise Gent

(Thanks Arlyn) but seemed beyond my abilities with regard to the install. Good luck Oscar.
Hey did that phone call with Catalina ever transpire?

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Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 10/31/2003 : 11:07:03

Oscar,

That is strange your boat was built after mine and I have a different faucet in the galley sink but yet yours is like Arlyn’s witch was built before my boat.

The faucet in the head sink looks like the one Arlyn has pictured in the galley sink

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Response Posted - 10/31/2003 : 11:27:01

Hey Oscar, pulling out the WestMarine Catalog, is that the Jabsco Galley pump Model 110041?

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 10/31/2003 : 11:33:34

Arlyn’s witch was built before my boat. - Bryan

Hey Bryan ... 'got Halloween on the brain???

Arlyn ... does Bryan make your list?

Happy Halloween everyone!

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jmorrical
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Response Posted - 10/31/2003 : 12:01:51

My faucet installation is the same as Bryan shows in his photo. The galley faucet has been leaking badly at the counter top. The faucet tube assembly pulls up and out easily and has a cork looking washer that must be to prevent leaks. It leaks! Any suggestions. Where do I get parts?

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 10/31/2003 : 12:37:21

Bryan, yours must be a special edition

Yes the rudder phonathon perspired....

http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4935

The pump I ordered is the model 1235506 in line Whale pump, page 428.

I plan to split the supply with a T, put the pump on one side, and a seafit checkvalve on page 463 model number 1225804 on the other side, then bring the two back together with a T and continue up to the faucet.

Theory is that the pump will force the water out of the faucet, but cannot flow back into the tank because of the check valve. The handpump, when desired can draw the water through the check valve.

Everything should easily fit under the removable floor of the galley cabinet, and electricity is right there too.

This is the plan.....I'll let you know if it worked.

Oscar
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Edited by - Oscar on 10/31/2003 12:48:35

Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 10/31/2003 : 12:54:07

FYI, I installed the Jabsco pump, and now intend to install two check valves when I modify, because the Jabsco does allow water to flow back.

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sailgal
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Response Posted - 11/01/2003 : 10:05:55

J.B. I saw your pump in the West Cat. Did you use their facet as well? Also I'm still learning....why two check valves? Is it because you're using the pump for the head also? Did you mount the pump in line or "screw it into the tank" as the specs state is way to install. Why did you choose that model over others. Thanks, I'm really liking this idea..wait to see how Oscars turns out, and then make decision as to what pump will be the best fit for me.

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 11/03/2003 : 10:43:45

Hi Suzie,

I did install the Jabsco faucet/switch combo, but I don't like it at all due to its extremely low spout and very cheap construction. That is why I'm going to try to modify the system and try using the original Whaler hand pump in conjunction with the Jabsco pump.

Looking at Oscar's drawing, I intend to install a second check valve on the faucet side of the line exiting the pump. The two check valves should act together to prevent loss of prime and the creation of a circular flow around the pump.

The Jabsco pump only powers my galley faucet. I installed the pump in-line at the bottom of the bilge in the quarterberth locker. The Jabsco has just enough head pressure to provide a good stream of water through the four foot run and two foot elevation leading to the galley faucet. I don't think it could handle much more than that.

I chose the Jabsco because it was the least expensive pump I could find from West Marine or an on-line chandlery. However, others have since suggested that cheaper prices and more selection can be had from RV supply stores.

Regards,

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MattL
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Response Posted - 11/03/2003 : 15:41:10

Jim,
I wonder if you got an older pump. The photo in Bryans letter looks like the pump in my 86 Cat 25. Your description also sounds like my leaky faucet. The nozzle pulls out with a cork stopper with a hole in it, kind of washer like. For this version there is a rebuild kit but I can't find anyone that carries it. As soon as the admrial cuts loose her purse strings I may pop for a new one, or two.

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atgep
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Response Posted - 11/04/2003 : 22:35:08

20 bucks and a trip to the evil empire will cure your leaks. Here in J-ville. The local west marine carries the kit for the whale pump. You can call them before the trip. The pump is a very high quality piece of equipment. That is why I rebuilt both of mine instead of buying the junk on the shelves nowadays. Just make sure when you disassemble the pump there is not another problem like a cracked housing.

Edited by - atgep on 11/04/2003 22:36:29

Oscar
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Response Posted - 11/05/2003 : 00:14:59

Got the little bugger in the mail today,

Very compact.....description lists it as a "in line booster". It in fact recommends using it in conjunction with a hand pump, as it is not self priming, and the hand pump can be used for that. It flows freely when not running, so the parts for my ingenious bypass plumbing idea are now in the big box in my garage labeled "Goldberg Industries". That is the disadvantage of buying stuff out of a catalogue. You cant check it out before you buy it...

However, it did NOT come with the promised switch, or the collars to plumb it into 1/2" line as per the instructions. Nasty phone call to the evil empire resulted.....they said they'd take care of it.

Also, the stupid thing does not inform you which way is in or out....testing testing splash!!

Oscar
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Edited by - Oscar on 11/05/2003 00:19:49

Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 11/05/2003 : 07:03:37

Wow... I almost missed the above blooper... thanks Buzz

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jmorrical
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Response Posted - 11/06/2003 : 11:02:47

Matt,
I found the Whale pump rebuild kit at the West Marine online catalog page #432 for about $20. http://wmarine.mobular.net/wmarine/5/5/2/index.jsp

Edited by - jmorrical on 11/06/2003 11:03:51

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