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Chip Hunt
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Initially Posted - 02/06/2004 : 15:02:22

here is a 20 second video clip that i took with my digital camera while sailing yesterday. as you can see, it was cloudy and cold with plenty-o-wind. i guess the temp was about 50 degrees, and the wind was from the northeast at about 17 kts. we never once raised the mainsail. we had the 135 genny reefed most of the time, and that pushed us pretty close to hull speed the entire time. the guy manning the helm/doing the filming is me. enjoy.

http://www.hossbo.com/dod/sailingpics018.avi

84 c25 fk/tr
Slowly but Maybe

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Chip Hunt
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Response Posted - 02/06/2004 : 15:03:47

oh yeah, the boat is "slowly but maybe" (1984 c25 tr/fk).

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 02/06/2004 : 15:24:47

Rock on! Thanks, Chip. I needed that mid-winter diversion!

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/06/2004 : 15:26:31

tight

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/06/2004 : 16:03:12

Excellent footage Chip.

I, too, will just fly the genoa in heavier air.

Thanks for the clip!

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Scotd
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Response Posted - 02/06/2004 : 16:53:50

I agree that was great, I sure would love to see more.

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 02/06/2004 : 17:06:30

Frank Hopper wrote:

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">tight<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Isn't that Frank Gloss? And Frank didn't want to lose a Frank, so what's he doing giving it away here!

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 02/06/2004 : 17:07:57

Seriously, Chip, the video footage was pretty neat, and it was good to watch it. Thanks for sharing it with us-uns in the North and on the forum!

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 : 08:14:54

Hey Chip,
Great footage, thanks.
I live only 6 hours drive from Charleston, and hope to trailer my boat there someday for a week. As a matter of fact, Charleston is the closest salt water to Knoxville, as the interstate flies.
Do you know much about the sailing school there (I think it is Ocean sailing academy, or something like that. I have only heard from one student, and she wasn't impressed)
I only get 6 weeks vacation a year, and am burning up three to go to the keys a week from now, have a week in August, probably a no wind season, except for hurricanes, and then two weeks in mid november, is it getting too cool then?
I don't know if a long weekend cruise would be worth it, what with the hassle of rigging and derigging (and now the extra degree of difficulty with a furler in place)

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 : 10:28:34

Don't you get a lee helm with jib only ? (obviously haven't sailed my C25 that way yet)...

On my Venture, the boat would be unbalanced in that configuration and you were better off under a reefed main only. Probably points out that different boats are.... well, different boats.

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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 : 12:14:20

Cool

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Captain B
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 : 12:24:45

Awesome video! Looks like you had a great time.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 : 12:27:02

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ClamBeach
 Don't you get a lee helm with jib only ? (obviously haven't sailed my C25 that way yet)...

On my Venture, the boat would be unbalanced in that configuration and you were better off under a reefed main only. Probably points out that different boats are.... well, different boats.
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The masthead rig of the C25 lends itself quite well to sailing with the genoa only and is far superior than sailing with only the main.

A lot of times when the wind is up and I'm only going out for an hour or so, I'll just unfurl the genny. It's quick and easy.

Give it a try.

Edited by - dlucier on 02/07/2004 14:56:07

Chip Hunt
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 : 12:37:50

clambeach, i have found that my boat is very well balanced under genoa alone in such conditions. there is a little bit of lee helm when tacking, but once i get headway after a tack, the lee helm is not a problem. i think that the c25 not only points better under headsail alone in windy conditions, it also punches through waves better, and bobs much less than it would under mainsail alone. i think that most of us would agree that c25s are a bit stern-heavy to begin with. having more force exerted closer to the bow seems to compensate for that. it just feels to me like the boat is more balanced, and i am more comfortable sailing with that configuration than i am under main alone. i really cant think of any conditions in which i would rather be under just the main on my c25. different strokes for different folks i guess.

gloss, i do know a bit about the ocean sailing academy. the owner of the company lived two doors down from me about 3 years ago. he was one of the most arrogant and unfriendly people i have ever met. i would rather learn how to sail from reading bubble gum cards than pay that guy to teach me. rude people with superiority complexes really rub me the wrong way for some reason. imagine that! as for november sailing in charleston, it is not too cold. the water temperature at that time is probably still in the mid 60's or so. the air temperature should also be around the mid 60's, if not warmer. as you may have read in my post, it was about 50 degrees when i was out day before yesterday. i did have on long johns and a knit cap, but not once was i cold to the point that it became uncomfortable. if you pick your days wisely, you can easily sail year-round here in charleston. i highly recommend that you bring your boat here at any time of the year to sail this great harbor. if you do decide to come down, let me know. i know of some great restaurants and bars down here that any sailor would enjoy. id be glad to help steer you in the right direction.

i am also glad that you guys enjoyed that short clip i posted. next time i go out, i will take a couple more and post them for you guys who are snowed in to drool over!

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 : 16:13:46

Great bars and restaurants in Charleston, count me in.

I got the same feeling of arrogance when I talked to the folks at the ocean sailing academy. Too bad.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 : 18:46:51

Chip, thanks for the clip!

Now that's my kind of sailing!

And nice shades dude

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Todd Frye
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 : 11:45:59

Chip,
I don't recall seeing video on this site before. I have often thought it would be great to share video images (whether commercial or home grown) with fellow board members. Could you offer step-by-step posting procedures for us "techno challenged" members? Do you know if audio can be attached to video footage?

I consider this a real break through. Nice job of putting the rail down. Now that's what I'm talkin about.

Come on spring,
Todd Frye

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 : 14:01:16

Todd, not to circumvent Chip... two perspectives will be better than one. There are commerical packages that will produce the video clips and probably do a better job than the one that comes with Windows XP but if your using XP... you have the tool.

Getting the video and audio into the computer can be done in several ways. The most popular is probably a fire wire port for a video camera. Some Intel web cameras have a video port on them (my technique) and some video cards have them. Dedicated video port cards are also available.

Using the Windows Movie Creator can involve a learning curve but a little playing with it will soon produce movie clips. The MS one uses a format and extension of WMV where the one that Chip has is an AVI format. I think the AVI does a little better with compression. Video clips take a lot of space and use a lot of bandwidth so are usually kept short and limited in size. Even with the limtitations, viewing them on the web requires either broadband or fairly long downloads.

Those without broadband should go to a selction they want to see... then right click on the link and "Save Link Target As" to save the file to disk and then view it from ones own computer.

Here is a link to a few on my web site.

http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/video.html

There are two more videos on the site but they are model airplane related. One of me flying a WWI era biplane and the other of two buddies titled, "Small Prop - Big Bite".

http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/nonsailing.html

Enjoy

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Todd Frye
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 : 15:40:30

Your comments are always welcomed Arlyn...in fact, they are highly valued and most informative. I tried your site addresses but timed out on everything. I have a G4 Mac and am wondering if it's a Mac/PC incompatibility thing. Which makes me wonder if composing on a Mac will translate to our Catalina site. My Mac has lots of video and DVD toys, so editing should be easy, but getting things from me to the board could be interesting. But on a totally different note, I have been interested in making a 1/4 scale Bleriot monoplane. Would your WW I airplane interests have any connections to plans/drawings for this 1908 airplane? Thank you. Todd Frye

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 : 16:12:10

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Todd Frye
 I tried your site addresses but timed out on everything. I have a G4 Mac and am wondering if it's a Mac/PC incompatibility thing.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Todd, I will try Arlyn's site from my G4 tower when I get home. We save in QuickTime format which is not a non standard format, at worst people only need to download the quicktime PC player free from apple.com. If you are using Safari then you may need to use Explorer for Arlyn's site it does not do the 60 sec time out trick like Safari, Safari needs a "continue" button in the time out dialog box.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 : 16:42:38

Todd
I just tried it on my 17" G4 PowerBook with Safari and it downloaded the file and launched Microsoft Media Player and player fine. Do you have Micrsoft Media Player installed? Arlyn is not a commercial site so it does not download very fast but it was still under a minute.

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Just tried it from Explorer and it launched the media player plug-in and buffered the clip, it was much slower, probably 3 minutes, and the quality was not as good. I would say Safari's method of downloading and then launching the stand alone player is better.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 : 17:04:44

That's one heck of a boat ride with the main furled! Try viewing it in fast forward!!!!!

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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 : 19:15:56

Hi Chip,

I really like the video you shot.

Being a lakeland sailor, I have not sailed in chop like you were in.

Does the spray from the bow get to you in the cockpit? If so, are you considering getting a dodger?

Thanks,

PW

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Chip Hunt
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Response Posted - 02/10/2004 : 00:18:42

as for the question about the video, i am not very qualified to answer that. i shot it with a digital camera. the camera has no mic, thus the video has no sound. once i had uploaded the video to my computer, i emailed it to a friend in sweden who hosted it for me on his webspace. he gave me the link to where it was hosted, and i included that link in my initial post.

as for the question about the spray getting into the cockpit... you betcha it gets in there. look at the sailbag for my mainsail in that video. it is soaking wet (it was not raining that day). i have not really planned on getting a dodger for several reasons. one, it would have to be custom made. two, it would be expensive. three, i like a little spray now and again. i also have a tall rig, which means the boom is a good bit lower than it would be on a standard rig. i have concerns that a dodger might get in the way when tacking. if you are in choppy enough water and moving fast enough that you get sprayed inside the cockpit, chances are you are having a heck of a good sail. all in good fun, i guess.

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Response Posted - 02/10/2004 : 21:36:03

I have been ghosting on this website for some time now and finally decided to jump out into the opening.

With much repect to Chip, I recently took sailing lessons at THE Ocean SAiling Academy in CHarleston and I could not have had a more pleasant experience. The company is owned and operated by a young couple about to be married. Everyone was more than professional and courteous as well as being tremendous sailors. They have a good fleet of boats and offer classes from basic keel boat through Ocean passage. I honestly could not have had a better experience.

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Response Posted - 02/10/2004 : 21:44:45

By the way Chip, I live in Charleston as well. I recently purchased a Cat 250 WB (delivery expected later this month if you believe the broker). I'd love to get together and sail. I'm very new to sailing and always looking to get more experience so if you are ever looking for a crew let me know.

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