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Blueye
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Initially Posted - 02/07/2004 :  15:05:54  Show Profile
I am looking at a new Nissan 8HP LS Electric Start(2 cycle). I have access to one of few last 2 strokes being made by Nissan. I am replacing my 1981 Evinrude 9.9

Should I have any concerns about enough power to push my 81 Catalina #2267?

Tir A L'ARC #2267

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 :  15:14:26  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Where you sail is an issue, protected inland lake you are probably fine, SF Bay, maybe you want three outboards.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 :  15:18:34  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Blueye</i>
<br />I am looking at a new Nissan 8HP LS Electric Start(2 cycle). I have access to one of few last 2 strokes being made by Nissan. I am replacing my 1981 Evinrude 9.9

Should I have any concerns about enough power to push my 81 Catalina #2267?
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I've had no qualms whatsoever with my Mercury 8HP 2 stroke pushing my boat on Lake Erie.

What is the shaft length on that Nissan? 20"?

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Blueye
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 :  15:21:06  Show Profile
I guess I should mention I sail Lake Michigan..primarily day sailing. No small inland lake by any means..perhaps I should stay with a 9.9 if I get your drift

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Blueye
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 :  15:24:18  Show Profile
The shaft length is actually 22". I would be saving big bucks versus the 9.9 or going to the popular 4 strokes.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 :  15:31:20  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Blueye</i>
<br />The shaft length is actually 22". I would be saving big bucks versus the 9.9 or going to the popular 4 strokes.
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According to the [url="http://www.nissanmarine.com/products/index.html"]Nissan[/url] website, the 8HP 2-stroke only comes in 15" and 20" shaft lengths, whereas the 9.8 2-4 strokers have shaft lengths of 15", 20", and 25".

For Lake Michigan, I would consider the extra shaft length to keep the prop in the water.

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 02/07/2004 :  20:52:09  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">the 8HP 2-stroke only comes in 15" and 20" shaft lengths<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Due to differing definitions of shaft length utilized by different engine manufacturers, my tape measure next to the "long shaft" Tohatsu in the store showed about 22.5" using the same definition as Suzuki uses in coming up with 20" for my old 6 hp (which I think is adequately powerful, despite Mr. Bristle's, Mr. Montague's and other's friendly suggestions that it may not be)

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 02/08/2004 :  05:39:10  Show Profile
I recetly shared a story about coming up the Hudson River during max ebb. We were motor sailing and a friend, who has an Ensign with a 3.5 ob, said, "Why don't we wait for tide change, hang out in NY Bay for a while, we won't make much progress against the tide and river current." He didn't make progress against the tide and river current, we did. osmepneo has an 8 hp ob on the make and it drove the boat easily agaist the current.

So, even on Lake Michigan, I think 8 hp (IMHO) would be more than adequate. I also think that when the lake kicks up you would be better served with an xls. According to the Nissan catolog the 2 stroke 8 comes with an xls (rated 25 inches, probably 27-27.5 inches). That is different than the lengths listed on the web Nissan page. I have to have that clarified before I order.

In summary, I think an 8, with a high thrust prop with a xls would work perfectly for your situation.

Hope this helps.



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Gary
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Response Posted - 02/08/2004 :  12:23:45  Show Profile
I purchased a Nissan 8hp LS elec start for my C-25 last summer rather than repair my elderly Yamaha 9.9 high thrust 4-stroke. I love the light weight of the Nissan and consider it a safety factor for me and the boat. I sail on Pensacola Bay which can get pretty choppy. The Nissan has adequate power and I'm happy with it. However, the Yamaha did have a lot more power, especially at low speed and in reverse, and was quieter. Fuel consumption is just as good if not better with the Nissan. I'm ordering the optional prop with 6.5" pitch to help with docking/reverse. I ordered my Nissan from Online Outboards and had the new motor in just over a week. Good luck, Gary

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Captain B
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Response Posted - 02/08/2004 :  15:37:07  Show Profile
Get the long shaft Nissan.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 :  11:03:06  Show Profile
Blueeye - I've had an electric start Nissan 8 h.p. on "TSU" for 10 years now and it has never given a moments trouble. It also has an XLS (which is really necessary even on an inland lake) and I replaced the standard 7.5 in pitch prop with a 6.5 which made slow speed control much better.
Derek

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jncarlin
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Response Posted - 02/09/2004 :  17:13:37  Show Profile
I bought one of the last Nissan 9.8 XLS made - if you can find one, go with the XLS (was only available on the 9.8's). I was using a Mercury 6 LS, and I have no more heart-stopping events with cavitation (I sail on LI Sound). The extra couple of inches makes all the difference (and the extra HP doesn't hurt either!)

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seads
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Response Posted - 02/11/2004 :  22:15:35  Show Profile
I have EXACTLY the engine you're looking at. I runs great and has adequate power. My marina is in Charleston Harbor South Carolina and there is a stiff tidal flow and I've never had any more problem than you would expect with any little outboard on the back of a fairly heavy boat.

In chop I wich I had the XLS, but LS is adequate.

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