Association Forum - Nifty way to run a traveler and have a bimini

Assn Members Area · Join

Home.

Association Forum

Ships Store

Cruising

Racing

Technical Tips

Photo Gallery - New

Boat Search - Updated

Manuals & Brochures

Swap Meet

Links

Officer Flag Line & Staff

Bylaws & Constitution

Members Area

Join the Association

Notice:
The advice given on this site is based upon individual or quoted experience, yours may differ.
The Officers, Staff and members of this site only provide information based upon the concept that anyone utilizing this information does so at their own risk and holds harmless all contributors to this site.

Association Forum

Username:	Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

All Forums

Catalina/Capri 25/250 Sailor's Forums

Catalina 25 Specific Forum

Nifty way to run a traveler and have a bimini

New Topic

Topic Locked

Printer Friendly

Author

Topic

strataview
Deckhand

Member Avatar

12 Posts

Initially Posted - 02/21/2004 : 14:00:02

If anyone is interested in seeing the way my C-25 traveler is setup to allow a full-size bimini, let me know. I'm thinking about putting together a kit and selling it...

Edited by - on

rford
1st Mate

Members Avatar

USA
73 Posts

Response Posted - 02/21/2004 : 14:16:05

Of course we'd like to know. Is this for a SR or TR?

Edited by - on

strataview
Deckhand

Members Avatar

12 Posts

Response Posted - 02/21/2004 : 14:28:12

Its for a tall rig. Do you think anyone would be interested in purchasing a kit? I haven't done it yet and would have to base it on my 1981.

Edited by - on

strataview
Deckhand

Members Avatar

12 Posts

Response Posted - 02/21/2004 : 15:09:26

I have it on my boat and have never seen it on other C-25's, thought it would be something good to patent and sell. I know I'm being stupid asking these questions, but if there is a market available, why not try and make a few bucks? Obviously anything made will go to slip rent as I have been temporarily displaced into a 40' slip at $250.00 a month until they finish the new docks. If your curious, got to http://www.ci.gulfport.fl.us/Webcam/Marina_Cam_1.htm, take control of the camera and spin it around....

Edited by - on

dlucier
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Virgin Islands (United Kingdom)
7583 Posts

Response Posted - 02/21/2004 : 15:20:34

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by strataview
 ...Obviously anything made will go to slip rent as I have been temporarily displaced into a 40' slip at $250.00 a month until they finish the new docks. If your curious, go to http://www.ci.gulfport.fl.us/Webcam/Marina_Cam_1.htm take control of the camera and spin it around....<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

That marina camera is cool!

Just think of the possibilities!

Edited by - on

dlucier
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Virgin Islands (United Kingdom)
7583 Posts

Response Posted - 02/21/2004 : 15:41:27

It sounds as if he moved the mainsheet to either the forward part of the cockpit or the cabintop.

Edited by - on

strataview
Deckhand

Members Avatar

12 Posts

Response Posted - 02/21/2004 : 15:47:31

Well, thats the problem, I haven't gotten the film developed yet. But yes, I moved the traveler to the forward portion of the cockpit, added some wood to support it all and had to add a new block&tackle or what the thing is called with new lines (I don't call my ropes, sheets, and never will) they're rope and its a well understood word even to the non-sailor! I also had to add a stainless steel half-ring to the bottom of the boom. So basically, I've given away my entire idea, although I suspect its not original, and will not see a single dime. Ahh, the story of my sailing experience.....

Edited by - on

strataview
Deckhand

Members Avatar

12 Posts

Response Posted - 02/21/2004 : 15:48:04

Obviously you can tell it pretty slow at work today!

Edited by - on

eric.werkowitz
Captain

Members Avatar

USA
283 Posts

Response Posted - 02/21/2004 : 22:23:55

Layervista, (layer is a much more common term than strata and I like the word vista better than view)

I think you may need more than one bale ("stainless steel half-ring")to attach the main "rope" to the boom. Since you've moved the "main rope" in on the boom, there are much greater forces on the anchor point than there were when it was at the end of the boom. Usually multiple bales are used on the kind of rig I believe you described.

By the way, the main impediment to the use of a bimini on a tall rig is the height of the boom, not the main sheet (sorry, main rope).

Edited by - on

dlucier
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Virgin Islands (United Kingdom)
7583 Posts

Response Posted - 02/22/2004 : 09:29:44

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Brooke Willson
 ...The bimini will be the 6' by 42" model from West Marine, attached to the genoa track by sliders....<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Brooke,

A 42" bimini seems a tad on the short side. You may want to consider shoe-horning the longest bimini that will fit between the backstay and your new mainsheet.

Edited by - on

tinob
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
1883 Posts

Response Posted - 02/22/2004 : 11:03:28

Strataview,good morning,

At the risk of sounding paternal may I direct you to the techtip section of this forum and the techtip section of our Mainsheet magazine and point out that each depiction of technical offerings were done gratis. We are a fraternity of Catalina sailors and SHARE ideas that we hope will make the sailing experience more rewarding without the expectations of financial reward. Our reward comes in the knowledge that we have helped a fellow sailor. You may also benefit from our organizations offerings just by joining. Annual fee $ 20.

Thanks You

Val on the hhard DAGNABIT

Ya got a burr under your saddle best remove it lest ya get trowed.

Edited by - on

OJ
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
4382 Posts

Response Posted - 02/22/2004 : 12:48:18

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by tinob

Ya got a burr under your saddle best remove it lest ya get trowed.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Good grief!

Edited by - OJ on 02/22/2004 12:50:37

RoofRoof
Navigator

Members Avatar

USA
186 Posts

Response Posted - 02/22/2004 : 16:23:47

I'll buy one sight unseen. Any price. Let me know when you have it completed and when can I receive it?

Oh, I can still use my pop top right? My boom will hold up to the extra torque by having the traveler in the middle of the boom, rather than at the end, right?

Edited by - on

Mark Loyacano
Navigator

Members Avatar

USA
247 Posts

Response Posted - 02/24/2004 : 07:07:37

A well written article in the latest issue of Good Old Boat magazine explains mid boom sheeting conversions. It recommends replacing the boom with a different style ... well illustrated, too.

Edited by - on

dlucier
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Virgin Islands (United Kingdom)
7583 Posts

Response Posted - 02/24/2004 : 09:43:10

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Brooke Willson
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">A 42" bimini seems a tad on the short side.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Don, that's 42" tall. Brooke
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Ooops!

my bad. I have a hard time thinking in three dimensions.

Edited by - on

strataview
Deckhand

Members Avatar

12 Posts

Response Posted - 02/25/2004 : 11:15:27

Actually, strataview is really StrataView version 9.x from Cisco Systems/StrataCom. It is a software package that is designed to manage $150k multi-service switches that carry voice,data and multimedia over backbone networks on a global scale. I managed 21 of these switches for a global manufacturing firm and adopted the software name because I have never, ever, had a problem with a duplicate out there on the net, there is only one and it is me. However LayerVista or actually just Vista, would be a great boat name.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by eric.werkowitz
 Layervista, (layer is a much more common term than strata and I like the word vista better than view)

I think you may need more than one bale ("stainless steel half-ring")to attach the main "rope" to the boom. Since you've moved the "main rope" in on the boom, there are much greater forces on the anchor point than there were when it was at the end of the boom. Usually multiple bales are used on the kind of rig I believe you described.

By the way, the main impediment to the use of a bimini on a tall rig is the height of the boom, not the main sheet (sorry, main rope).

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Edited by - on

cshaw
Captain

Members Avatar

USA
460 Posts

Response Posted - 02/29/2004 : 23:08:01

Eric,

I agree with your comment about tall rigs and biminis! (I have both).

The way I deal with it is I added another Clew Grommet at the same height above the boom as my cunningham grommet is. And that height just happens to be "just" enough to lift the boom high enough to clear the bimini. Then I simply hoist the main all the way, and take in my "bimini reef", allowing the boom to rise higher than the bimini. The clew grommet gets tied in with just a loop though it and around the boom. That allows me to still use the outhaul (and to ease it). The cunningham grommet is tied to the tack grommet. Tieing it in this way allows me to leave it tied in all the time that I have the bimini up (which is most all of the summer down here on the Gulf Coast!!)

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by eric.werkowitz

By the way, the main impediment to the use of a bimini on a tall rig is the height of the boom, not the main sheet (sorry, main rope).

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Edited by - on

Frank Hopper
Past Commodore

Members Avatar

Pitcairn Island
6776 Posts

Response Posted - 02/29/2004 : 23:22:18

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by cshaw
 Eric,

I agree with your comment about tall rigs and biminis! (I have both).

The way I deal with it is I added another Clew Grommet at the same height above the boom as my cunningham grommet is. And that height just happens to be "just" enough to lift the boom high enough to clear the bimini. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
[/quote]
My old main had a cringle there, the sailmaker called it a flattening reef, it completely took out the shelf foot, hence flattening the sail.

Edited by - on

cshaw
Captain

Members Avatar

USA
460 Posts

Response Posted - 02/29/2004 : 23:33:49

Frank,

Yes, For mains with a shelf its called a flattening reef. Mine is a loosefooted main, and by simply tightening the outhaul enough, the sail gets really flat with just the outhaul.

The small amount of sail you lose is sure worth it to be able to use the bimini when that hot summer sun is out!!!

Chuck

Edited by - on

Topic

New Topic

Topic Locked

Printer Friendly

Jump To:

Association Forum

Notice: The advice given on this site is based upon individual or quoted experience, yours may differ.
The Officers, Staff and members of this site only provide information based upon the concept that anyone utilizing this information does so at their own risk and holds harmless all contributors to this site.