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Frank Hopper
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Pitcairn Island
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Initially Posted - 02/23/2004 : 11:23:58

I thought my standing rigging could wait a year, after all that I have spent this winter I really need it to. But yesterday when I pulled the tarp, I found several strands broken at the swage fitting at the top of my port forward lower. Snapped clean as a whistle! They (the lowers) had been simply run along the mast to the foot where they were gathered up with the uppers, no real forces at all. I have spent the evening and morning debating with myself whether or not to simply buy the new rigging kit, (cheaper than usual because I bought all new turnbuckles already) or just buy one forward lower shroud. WWYD?

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/23/2004 : 11:57:19

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com
 I have spent the evening and morning debating with myself whether or not to simply buy the new rigging kit, (cheaper than usual because I bought all new turnbuckles already) or just buy one forward lower shroud. WWYD?
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Hmmmmm?...Well, if all of the standing rigging is of the same vintage, I would be inclined to err on the side of caution and replace everything. I have enough on my mind when I'm heeled over in a blow without having to worry if the rig and sails are going to join me in the cockpit!

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/23/2004 : 12:22:07

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dlucier
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com
 I have spent the evening and morning debating with myself whether or not to simply buy the new rigging kit, (cheaper than usual because I bought all new turnbuckles already) or just buy one forward lower shroud. WWYD?
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Hmmmmm?...Well, if all of the standing rigging is of the same vintage, I would be inclined to err on the side of caution and replace everything. I have enough on my mind when I'm heeled over in a blow without having to worry if the rig and sails are going to join me in the cockpit!

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So I can quote you to my wife? Can she call you?

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/23/2004 : 12:29:44

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Well, if your wife is like mine, just tell her that the new rigging will make the boat heel a lot less...A few weeks ago, I got a new knotmeter this way!

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PZell
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Response Posted - 02/23/2004 : 12:45:04

An old timer chandler (and I think I've heard this elsewhere) once
told me that the shrouds should be replaced in pairs. So, if you
have one lower shroud that's bad, do them both. And for best safety,
it's probably best to replace all four lowers. Most likely they are
of the same age.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/23/2004 : 13:08:05

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by PZell
 An old timer chandler (and I think I've heard this elsewhere) once
told me that the shrouds should be replaced in pairs. So, if you
have one lower shroud that's bad, do them both. And for best safety,
it's probably best to replace all four lowers. Most likely they are
of the same age.

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Thanks Paul, I did notice that CD sells them in pairs!

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/23/2004 : 15:42:04

CD says that the new turnbuckles I have are 1" longer than the open turnbuckles that they ship with their rigging. The rigging is made for the length of their turnbuckles. I ordered the pair of forwards and will try them with my new turnbuckles to make sure that there is enough adjustment there. Does anyone have an idea beforehand whether 1" sound significant?

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/23/2004 : 16:00:00

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com
 CD says that the new turnbuckles I have are 1" longer than the open turnbuckles that they ship with their rigging. The rigging is made for the length of their turnbuckles. I ordered the pair of forwards and will try them with my new turnbuckles to make sure that there is enough adjustment there. Does anyone have an idea beforehand whether 1" sound significant?
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I would think they would work since turnbuckles have a little operating range for adjustment.

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Raskal
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Response Posted - 02/23/2004 : 18:21:32

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">An old timer chandler (and I think I've heard this elsewhere) once
told me that the shrouds should be replaced in pairs. So, if you
have one lower shroud that's bad, do them both. And for best safety,
it's probably best to replace all four lowers. Most likely they are
of the same age.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Amazing, when I was a whippersnapper an old time mechanic told me the exact same thing about tires...did he tell you to rotate them each season?...

Rich K.

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Mark Loyacano
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Response Posted - 02/23/2004 : 19:04:55

Regarding the question of expense for new cables (to replace worn out rigging) ... what would you be willing to pay for them AFTER the mast has started on its way overboard? Uh huh...exactly.

Regarding the uncertainty of CD's cable length(s) ... our local Catalina dealer can accurately match what you have now.

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