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Oscar
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Initially Posted - 02/24/2004 : 17:35:58

Interesting reading...

http://www.yachtcouncil.com/catalina.asp

Oscar

Lady Kay 250 WB #618
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Lady Kay IV, Dragonfly 25 # 54 Former C30#618-C250WB#618-C42#76

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 02/24/2004 : 18:26:43

OK ... I give up ... why is the Catalina 25 never mentioned ... not even once?

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 02/24/2004 : 18:29:46

Illegitimate child?

Oscar

Lady Kay 250 WB #618
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 02/24/2004 : 19:05:01

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> OK ... I give up ... why is the Catalina 25 never mentioned ... not even once?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Yeah, how do you overlook $125 million worth of boats (give or take $20 million either way)?

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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 02/24/2004 : 19:38:03

I've seen this before and it really p*ssed me off.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 02/24/2004 : 19:50:17

I'm sorry I brought it up......

Oscar

Lady Kay 250 WB #618
Sunrise on the Neuse River...

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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 02/24/2004 : 19:58:56

I don't think anybody wants to kill the messenger.

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cathluk
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Response Posted - 02/24/2004 : 20:42:50

Missing the C25 is a MAJOR OMMISSION!

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John G-
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Response Posted - 02/24/2004 : 20:53:17

The following e-mail address was on the bottom of the page.
info@yachtcouncil.com
I suggest we and I mean ALL of us use it.

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 02/24/2004 : 21:09:59

Good job, John! Done.


Dear Sir or Madam,

I am the Treasurer of the Catalina 25/250 National Association. We have a very active web forum (http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/default.asp) enjoyed by our Association membership that numbers over 700 active members.

Today, we were discouraged to learn of the utter lack of information regarding one of the all-time most popular production pocket cruisers, the Catalina 25. Please see the discussion here http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5796

Perhaps something could be done to address this unfortunate, but most obvious, oversight.

Thank you and best regards,

J.B. Manley
Treasurer
Catalina 25/250 National Association

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John G-
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Response Posted - 02/24/2004 : 21:16:34

I sent the following e-mail to the [url="info@yachtcouncil.com"]Yacht Council[/url].

“I visited your page on Catalina yachts.
http://www.yachtcouncil.com/catalina.asp
There is NO mention of the 6000 Catalina 25's that we own. The members of the Catalina C25/C250 National Association at http://www.catalina25-250.org/index2.html would like you to update your history of Catalina yachts so that everyone will know about the finest and most prolific coastal cruiser built in America the Catalina 25..
Thank you
John Gisondi
Mainsheet Contributing Editor
C25/C250 National Association”

I suggest everyone be polite and brief.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 02/24/2004 : 22:16:26

I've created a monster

....gotta hand it to you guys though.....standing up for what you believe in....makes me proud

Oscar

Lady Kay 250 WB #618
Sunrise on the Neuse River...

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mmac
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Response Posted - 02/24/2004 : 22:39:34

Guys,
The same history is on the Catalina Factory web pages. There is no mention of C25's until the 250WB in 1994. Maybe we should send a few e-mails their way.
Mike

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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 02/24/2004 : 22:49:45

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by mmac
 Guys,
The same history is on the Catalina Factory web pages. There is no mention of C25's until the 250WB in 1994. Maybe we should send a few e-mails their way.
Mike
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I had seen that as well and assumed that's where the Yacht Council got their (mis) information. I'm at a loss as to why Catalina would ignore such a large and active class of their "classic", well built, long lived, highly popular, and still desireable Catalinas.

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Ben
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Response Posted - 02/25/2004 : 07:15:23

"I'm at a loss as to why Catalina would ignore such a large and active class..."

Kind of makes you feel like a red-headed stepchild.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/25/2004 : 09:49:29

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Ben
 "I'm at a loss as to why Catalina would ignore such a large and active class..."

Kind of makes you feel like a red-headed stepchild.

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Lets all wear black clothes and whine like we're from Seattle.
Come-on guys, "We don't need no stink'n badges"!

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 02/25/2004 : 10:24:46

Great response (see below), and now the ball's back in our court. Allan makes a good point in his email, in that I don't think that I've ever seen the C25 history, either. So, if anyone can point us in the right direction, then I'll make sure to provide it to Allan.
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">
J.B.,

I do apologize for the oversight as we are not totally familiar with these models, nor are we familiar with the manufacturer Catalina. The yachtcouncil site is a MLS for the used yacht/boat/sailboat industry. In an attempt to draw traffic to our site we looked at the top 10 manufacturers listed with in our database and promoted them by creating an individual page dedicated to that manufacturer.

I would gladly speak of these Models if I could get some informative information regarding them. I look briefly at the Catalina associations web site and found no information regarding this models.

The pages that I was directed to by you and John, was to the forum section within your web site. Although very informative on certain aspects of the Catalina 25 and 6000; I did not find one place that really talk about that model in its entirety. I would gladly include some information on the Catalina 25's and 6000 if you could direct me to an area that talks about those models, when they were introduced, etc...

Since the Yachtcouncil Web site is an association driven web site, I would gladly add your association logo and a link to the associations web site from this page. If you could send me the association logo banner I could place this on that page quickly.

Again, thank you for pointing out our oversight and if you could please point me to a specific site, or page that talks about the overall model it would be greatly appreciated.

Allan Gardner
VP/ CTO
Marine Solutions
www.yachtcouncil.org
www.yachtcouncil.com
"The Industry's MLS"
p. 954.578.8363
f. 954.578.9876<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

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John G-
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Response Posted - 02/25/2004 : 10:40:32

I received the following prompt response to my e-mail to the Yacht Council.
 

“John,

I do apologize for the oversight as we are not totally familiar with these models, nor are we familiar with the manufacturer Catalina. The yachtcouncil site is a MLS for the used yacht/boat/sailboat industry. In an attempt to draw traffic to our site we looked at the top 10 manufacturers listed with in our database and promoted them by creating an individual page dedicated to that manufacturer.

I would gladly speak of these Models if I could get some informative information regarding them. I look briefly at the Catalina associations web site and found no information regarding this models.

The pages that I was directed to by you and the treasurer of the association was to the forum section within your web site. Although very informative on certain aspects of the Catalina 25 and 6000; I did not find one place that really talk about that model in its entirety. I would gladly include some information on the Catalina 25's and 6000 if you could direct me to an area that talks about those models, when they were introduced, etc...

Since the Yachtcouncil Web site is an association driven web site, I would gladly add your association logo and a link to the associations web site from this page. If you could send me the association logo banner I could place this on that page quickly.

Again, thank you for pointing out our oversight and if you could please point me to a specific site, or page that talks about the overall model it would be greatly appreciated.

Allan Gardner
VP/ CTO
Marine Solutions
www.yachtcouncil.org
www.yachtcouncil.com
"The Industry's MLS"
p. 954.578.8363
f. 954.578.9876”

 
Don as Secty. Do you want to get him the info or should Clif do it? I think there is a brief history somewhere that Bill Holcomb put together. Also any link in the boating world to our web site (not the forum) is always helpful.
I will reply with a thank you and let him know he will contacted shortly.

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svmoxie
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Response Posted - 02/25/2004 : 10:45:11

J.B. - direct it right back to Catalina Customer Service. Jerry Douglas and Frank Butler. (818) 884-7700

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John G-
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Response Posted - 02/25/2004 : 10:55:02

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by svmoxie
 J.B. - direct it right back to Catalina Customer Service. Jerry Douglas and Frank Butler. (818) 884-7700
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Clif, J.B. if it doesn’t sound like you’re getting a good response from Catalina I think we should offer a line or two. Remember the Yacht Council got the info from Catalina and they are done selling 25’s and want to sell 250’s so we are “old news”.
Also what about his offer to have our logo as a link to the web site? I think that is worth following up on.

Hey shouldn't we have a "history" page on the web site?

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 02/25/2004 : 11:05:22

John,

I agree with everything you said. I'll start with Catalina, see what we get, and then we'll go from there. Also, I responded to Allan with our thanks and a commitment to get a history and logo banner to him as quickly as possible.

JB

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 02/25/2004 : 13:29:23

Catalina 6000?

Oscar

Lady Kay 250 WB #618
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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 02/25/2004 : 13:34:58

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Oscar
 Catalina 6000?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Apparently, it's in the Conch Republic.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 02/25/2004 : 14:34:34

I apologize in advance for stating the obvious . . . but this thread is a great example of the spirit of the group and why the forum is so successful

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Okay, I'm ready to kick some butt

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 02/25/2004 : 20:44:33

Fer krayin out loud man, fall off ...yer jib's luffin!!!

Oscar
250WB#618 Lady Kay on the Chesapeake

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OJ
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Response Posted - 02/25/2004 : 21:25:40

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Oscar
 Fer krayin out loud man, fall off ...yer jib's luffin!!!
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Indeed it does look like we're luffing - we actually just popped the genoa to change tack, hence, the bow spray. Fall off and we'd be picken blackberries !!!

Edited by - OJ on 02/26/2004 12:25:48

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