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Designwiz
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Initially Posted - 03/01/2004 : 17:51:14

This weekend I took advantage of the mid 50 degree temps and went over to the boat yard to swap over to my new shiny stainless steel motor mount. Felt lucky that the mounting holes lined up with the new unit, then I measured the amount of travel on the new mount and was surprised to find out I had 5 inches less of vertical travel. The old mount which I beleive is the original setup had a whopping 16 inches of travel, this new slick looking new unit has only 11 inches at best. Back to the starting line on this project. Question to post here is can the original units be rebuilt (use to stick in the detent slot in the down position). Checked the old mount over for cracks and found none, other than getting stuck and a few small rust spots it seems to be usable. Found some units that have 14 inches of travel for about $200. Is this the way to go? Having to buy another motor mount is okay with me I just need to make sure of the travel. New mount is non returnable (internet item bought in the fall of last year). Thanks in advance!!

Wind Dancer

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Designwiz
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Response Posted - 03/01/2004 : 17:54:29

HI...forgot to say motor going on the mount is a 1998 8 hp Nissan long shaft (22.5 inches) with electric start. Great motor..!!

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 03/01/2004 : 18:10:34

Hi Bruce,

What brand replacement did you purchase? I bought the Garhauer replacement which seems to have about two inches less travel, but that has actually worked out just fine. As a matter of fact, I think my cowling may have been underwater when at full throttle with the old mount. ;-)

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OJ
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Response Posted - 03/01/2004 : 21:00:04

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Designwiz
 . . . can the original units be rebuilt . . . <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

If it's the original bracket it most probably was made by Garhauer. I know they use to (and probably still do) rebuild their brackets. Ask about the option to add a second spring and the improved motor mounting board.

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Designwiz
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Response Posted - 03/01/2004 : 23:18:23

Thanks, I will call Garhauer to see if they are interested in rebuilding it or selling me what I need to do it myself.
Adding second spring sounds real good. Unit with the 11 inches of travel was bought on Ebay last fall...nice unit..very well made even if it turned out to be manufactured in China!! All 306 polished stainless with six springs and a pretty nice handle with a number of detents. Most likely a knock off of an American model... it has no brand name on it. Company was from California and sells stainless boat hardware.

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gambrose
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Response Posted - 03/03/2004 : 17:22:31

Garhauer does rebuild our old motor mounts with bronze bushings for $50. It is not possible to add a second spring to the old mounts because the existing spring is captured between two welded points.

Garhauer prefers to do the rebuild as opposed to selling the bushings because of very close tolerances in assembly. Since they have a machine shop they will turn the bushings to fit.

The replacement mount is an exact replacement but when placed side by side to the old you can see a difference in travel of an inch or two. Close examination will show this to be excessive wear in the old mount.

Gary

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Raskal
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Response Posted - 03/03/2004 : 18:25:19

I saw a lot of seemingly good brackets on eBay over the last couple of months that aren't described accurately enough by the sellers; the best thing to do is copy down model numbers or names and find the descriptions on the Westmarine.com or other reputable seller's web site. Very often these brackets were the short versions, which the original buyers found to be unsatisfactory for their particular sailboat and turned around to the next person ready to fall into that trap.

Before you do major surgery on your garhauer bracket I would suggest installing it first and trying your new motor on it; if the motor makes up for the lost inches then you may have stumbled into a good situation because the shorter travel of the bracket may give better stability for the whole setup.

Rich Kokoska

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Response Posted - 03/05/2004 : 19:45:17

Bruce: For your outboard, the new version of the Garhauer bracket would be a great upgrade--the mounting will be the same, the springs are stronger, the board is stainless-backed Starboard, and the travel is just about the same as the original. You can see it on their site or on Catalina Direct's.

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falco_esq
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Response Posted - 04/04/2004 : 16:50:44

What do you all mean by travel? I have a 1983 Catalina 25. The motor mount was made of two thick pieces of wood that are glued and bolted together to double the thickness. This piece is shot, so I removed it today. Two mysterious springs appeared. The boat store had a plastic one for sale for about $45.00, but it was just too small. I need a motor mount that can support a 9.9HP Yamaha. The store said they cound order one for me, but they would have to know the brand name on the bracket that lifts the motor up and down. Of, course, I could not find a brand name on it anywhere. Do you know where I can get this part and how much it will be? $200.00 seems like aot of money.

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Response Posted - 04/04/2004 : 20:29:01

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The replacement mount is an exact replacement but when placed side by side to the old you can see a difference in travel of an inch or two.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Each of the four mounting holes in the bracket has an upper, middle and lower hole option for attaching it to the transom. My old one was mounted using the middle holes. Using the upper holes on the new bracket compensates for the inch or two difference, putting the motor at the same relative height as before (in the lowered position).

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Designwiz
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Response Posted - 04/06/2004 : 13:04:32

Motor mount issue was resolved by ordering a replacement from Garhauer. They said this was a duplicate for what was on the sailoat (1987) from the factory except for bronze bushings, better springs and a plastic motor mounting board instead of the wooden ones they use to use. Was going to cost me $60 to rebuild the origional, replace the board was another $50 plus shipping out and back...it was just more sensible to buy a new one. The older one had 16" of lift and the replacment is claimed has the same amount of travel.

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Response Posted - 04/06/2004 : 17:05:58

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Designwiz
 Motor mount issue was resolved by ordering a replacement from Garhauer. They said this was a duplicate for what was on the sailoat (1987) from the factory except for bronze bushings, better springs and a plastic motor mounting board instead of the wooden ones they use to use. Was going to cost me $60 to rebuild the origional, replace the board was another $50 plus shipping out and back...it was just more sensible to buy a new one. The older one had 16" of lift and the replacment is claimed has the same amount of travel.
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Good move!

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