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OJ
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Response Posted - 03/08/2004 : 20:00:00

https://www.minicraft.com/retail/catalinayachts.htm

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TomA
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Response Posted - 03/08/2004 : 20:53:40

John, My experience is the same as J.B's. I pulled off my depth meter once and found a shiny, tan square where the instrument had been mounted.

Catalina Direct sells white gelcoat repair kits for years 1980-1988 and 1989-1994. They also sell paste "matched to your original color". I'll bet someone has a list of color schemes by year.

Tom

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/08/2004 : 21:21:05

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Antares
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by John Mason
 My interior is tan/beige/off-white, but the hull and deck are definitely white. Is there another reason, other than the interior color that makes you suspect the hull is tan?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Yes, two. First, everyone else reporting that the original color on their boats was tan. Your testimonial, John, is the first I've read of white topsides. Second, when I removed the twenty year old boat registration numbers last summer the fiberglass underneath was shiny and light tan. My interior is also beige and my deck is most definitely white.
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Mine is tan in tan out and white deck.

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Mark Loyacano
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Response Posted - 03/08/2004 : 21:26:51

I saw Frank Butler's Catalina 42 at his Marina del Rey dock a couple years ago...the hull was a deep blue gelcoat...really good looking. Tough to maintain, I'll bet.

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Response Posted - 03/09/2004 : 22:02:37

Thanks for the heads up Dave. I read about it on the web. I will not waste time at the local Boat US or West. We have a couple of other places locally to try before I get it off the web. I want to use it on the deck and cabin more than the hull. Confetti's hull was Awlgripped several years ago, but the deck looks 28 years old (zillions of tiny cracks on all surfaces as the gel coat has become brittle). Costs more than the boat to have someone refinish it, and I have seen too many do-it-your-self paint jobs make an old boat turn into a junky looking boat (nice and shiny junker, but still pretty poor...)

Chuck

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave Bristle
 Chuck: I suspect you won't find it in the store--at least not West or BoatUS... Try Googling "Poli Glow" for some sources. They sell it at boat shows and through some Web stores, but they don't seem to be interested in getting into mass distribution. BTW, 5 coats on my hull took about half a bottle!

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Response Posted - 03/10/2004 : 19:13:28

I had great success restoring the shine to the Hull of my '81 with Vertglass. No elbow grease necessary. I havn't tried it on the deck yet, but will do that this summer!

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Response Posted - 03/12/2004 : 16:24:44

Coming in the April issue of PS
BACK FROM THE DEAD: GELCOAT RESTORERS
With a wax test already underway, we thought it would be a good time to revisit gelcoat restorers--Poli Glow, Vertglas, and New Glass-2. This initial article describes the products and application procedur

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Response Posted - 03/12/2004 : 17:24:57

One of the seminars at the Catalina Rendevous at Two Harbors, Catalina Island last year, a representitive from the gelcoat manufacturer supplying Catalina Yachts gave a dementration on gelcoat repairs and restoration. (Is this a record for using the word Catalina in one sentence?) Anyway, he said that 'color sanding' is a fairly quick and easy way to restore the original color of the gelcoat. He claimed that Frank Butler doesn't skrimp on the thickness he uses on the gelcoat, so don't be afraid to use a very fine sand paper, like 1000 grit and wet sand the hull. Follow this with rubbing compound and finally a good wax. The hull will look like new. My boat's hull was in fairly good shape when I purchaced her. I used a good rubbing compound and then waxed twice. Every year I give the hull a waxing and other then the usual dings from docking and bumping the hull looks great. He also gave a very informative demenstration on how to repair deep scratches and chips. I have purchased all the materials and might give these repairs a try before going to the Nationals this summer.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 03/12/2004 : 17:36:51

so what is Vertglass?

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/12/2004 : 22:16:42

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Gloss
 so what is Vertglass?
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http://www.lovettmarine.com/files/vertglas.asp

I really like it, my 20 year old son is actually looking forward to doing it this spring, we only did a short two coats in the fall and it looked great. It should look better after several more coats. All this talk reminded me that I wanted one of the bigger applicators, just ordered it on line.

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Response Posted - 03/12/2004 : 23:24:09

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Gloss
 so what is Vertglass?
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Near as I can tell, it's the same stuff as Poli Glow. Whichever you can get, they're good alternatives for a much more durable if not quite as shiny finish (initially) compared to wax, with no buffing.

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Response Posted - 03/12/2004 : 23:38:03

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave Bristle
 ...they're good alternatives for a much more durable if not quite as shiny finish (initially) compared to wax, with no buffing.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Hmmm, I wonder what would happen if you waxed over Poliglow or Vertglass...no more buffing, ever?

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 03/13/2004 : 07:47:09

so then Poliglow is what you use to shine your parrott?

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 03/13/2004 : 08:02:36

You know, I wonder if Vertglas, Poliglow, and Island girl are essentially the same type of products. Could they come from the same production facility? Probably not, but I bet they have lots of similarities in design.
I wonder if anybody has ever run some tests comparing the three.
I quit getting practical sailor as they are just too expensive

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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 03/13/2004 : 08:05:15

I wonder if any of the "poly" auto motive polishes can do the same job at lower cost since when you add the tag "marine" to any product the price increases exponentially.

Last season I used the 3M cleaner and polish and was extremely satisfied, but I'm tempted to try an automotive poly polish. Has anyone tried one of these?

In any event I would recommend both of the the 3M products which were much easier to apply than the paste wax I've used before and gave great results.

Edited by - oldsalt on 03/13/2004 08:08:03

Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/13/2004 : 11:06:44

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Gloss
 You know, I wonder if Vertglas, Poliglow, and Island girl are essentially the same type of products. Could they come from the same production facility? Probably not, but I bet they have lots of similarities in design.
I wonder if anybody has ever run some tests comparing the three.
I quit getting practical sailor as they are just too expensive
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I am only using Island girl Pink for my decks. What I read made me wipe VertGlass on the hull and lay Island Girl on the deck. I found VertGlass buy looking for a used boat. I called a dealer and asked why all of his adds mentioned restored fiberglass. He told me about VertGlass and that he liked it best.

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Response Posted - 03/13/2004 : 12:20:46

So... Poliglow or Vertglass?

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 03/13/2004 : 18:28:24

I'm going to use Island Girl. The cute chick in their ad sold me.
Actually I bought some to re do my 22 and never used it, so when the weather warms a little I'm going to try it.

I did talk to the guy who developed Island Girl. He is a PHD Chemist who worked on the team which got the Nobel Prize on the study of salycilates (aspirin). Seems like a pretty smart guy.

I never did get to talk to the cute chick.

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John J.
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Response Posted - 03/14/2004 : 08:31:27

I don't know how Poliglow et. al. work, but the great thing about Vertglas is how easy it is to use. I'm basically lazy and the thought of wetsanding,scrubbing,buffing, on a hull the size of ours, why that hurts my elbows just thinking about it. With Vertglas, you wash your boat with one solution,and "paint" on the finish. It's an activity that even goes well a 6-pak. My hull, however,wasn't severly chalked.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/14/2004 : 11:11:30

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by John J.
 I don't know how Poliglow et. al. work, but the great thing about Vertglas is how easy it is to use. I'm basically lazy and the thought of wetsanding,scrubbing,buffing, on a hull the size of ours, why that hurts my elbows just thinking about it. With Vertglas, you wash your boat with one solution,and "paint" on the finish. It's an activity that even goes well a 6-pak. My hull, however,wasn't severly chalked.
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Mine was so I started with SoftScrub with bleach. That was a lot of work but I will never need to do it again.

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Response Posted - 03/14/2004 : 11:19:30

Mine is pretty dull. What is the easiest (laziest) way to get the hull ready for one of these products without hiring some kid to do it for me?

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Response Posted - 04/10/2004 : 19:49:58

I just finished applying 5 coats of Poliglow to the hull of my C25 and I couldn't believe the results. The boat looks great! The Poli Prep was a great first step for cleaning the hull and removing light oxidation from the blue stripes.

Then I applied the Poliglow and from first coat the boat began to shine, by the 5th it looked like new. With eac coat the white and the blue became richer and the shine is great.

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Response Posted - 04/11/2004 : 12:35:15

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by rford
 I just finished applying 5 coats of Poliglow to the hull of my C25 and I couldn't believe the results. The boat looks great!...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

The current issue of Practical Sailor also liked the Poliglow.

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Response Posted - 04/13/2004 : 15:52:07

I also put about 6 coats on the hull. The hull actually looks wet! I had a lot of questions and comments in the boat yard as I mopped it onto the hull, but everyone agreed that it looks great.

I also applied several coats to the topsides (except for the nonskid). That was much harder than sponging it onto a smooth, even hull. There are lot of tight spots and small areas to cover. I'll probabaly put a few more coats in the cockpit area as time permits, because I still see a few streaks. If it holds up well in my salt water slip, I'll be very satisfied.

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