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bsmudd
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Initially Posted - 03/27/2004 :  14:56:52  Show Profile
I am about to give the Chimera a paint job and I'm thinking about something with some color. Please post pictures of your nifty paint jobs so I can see how the catalina looks in different shades.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 03/27/2004 :  15:07:44  Show Profile
I would advise against painting over gelcoat . . . paint is not nearly as durable. I think you'll be chasing scratches the rest of the time you own the boat.

Is the current finish dull or do you simply want a color change?

Maybe Buzz Maring will chime in here.




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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 03/27/2004 :  15:43:56  Show Profile
Only the very best paints hold up on a sailboat hull. However, the 'right stuff' (read professional) finishes like "Sterling", "Awlgrip" or the new automotive paints need... profe$$ional application.

That said, I painted my V23 with Easypoxy using foam brushes and foam rollers.. it came out pretty darn nice, but I went with the same color as the original gelcoat so scratches and dings don't show. After 3 or 4 years it's was needing a recoat. (BTW) I think Easypoxy is about the best paint that can be applied by the do-it-yourselfer.

I think a C25 with a dark green hull and red bottom paint would be beautiful.

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rford
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Response Posted - 03/27/2004 :  18:29:13  Show Profile
Although, I've not painted my hull, I have had a conversation about it with some fellow club members who have painted their hulls. One of the sailers who has painted many boats, suggested doubling the hardener when mixing the Epoxy Paint. It said it makes the paint last much longer. It might be an idea worth exploring more.

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bsmudd
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Response Posted - 03/29/2004 :  11:01:13  Show Profile
I was just curious about my options and didn't know much about it.

So, if painting over gel coat is a bad idea, then are most colored boats not fiberglass?


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Response Posted - 03/29/2004 :  11:10:37  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by bsmudd</i>
<br />So, if painting over gel coat is a bad idea, then are most colored boats not fiberglass?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Not necessarily. A friend of mine owns a Catalina 30 on which he painted the topsides navy blue, and the boot and cove(?) stripes white. Very sharp looking boat, and over ten years he's never had any problems with the finish. Of course, he is also the most paranoidal of dockers. Unfortunately, he doesn't remember what paint he used.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 03/29/2004 :  17:13:16  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by bsmudd</i>
<br />So, if painting over gel coat is a bad idea, then are most colored boats not fiberglass?
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The gelcoat is sprayed into the mold at the factory, then the fiberglass cloth is applied. The hull color, striping, cabin top and nonskid is gelcoat.
For what it's worth, you can have new gelcoat (color of your choice) sprayed onto your existing gelcoat . . . but it is usually done by a profe$$ional. BTW, darker colors show oxidation more than lighter ones.

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Raskal
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Response Posted - 03/29/2004 :  18:44:03  Show Profile
Here's an idea--if you're the restless sort who gets the urge to change color often, why not use a REALLY CHEAP PAINT that will come off easily? You can reinvent your "look" every season by just peeling off the old stuff and starting over again...

A few of the racing sailboats at my marina have bright hull colors like lime green and neon yellow. And a well-done mural will really draw some attention...

Rich K.

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 03/29/2004 :  23:09:04  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
Algrip emerald blue. Sorry its not a Catalina but color is color. Painting over gel coat is fine . Its durable and T/U is no big deal .


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bsmudd
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Response Posted - 04/07/2004 :  10:09:41  Show Profile
Very nice. I wish my sail cover matched.

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jm
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Response Posted - 04/07/2004 :  10:32:47  Show Profile
Nice angle shot Doug ! Triska looks like a 37' !

&lt;I hope the dock master doesn't think so&gt;

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Charlie Vick
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Response Posted - 04/07/2004 :  13:12:16  Show Profile
Beautiful Boat Doug!
Thanks for the pics!

CVick
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bsmudd
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Response Posted - 04/08/2004 :  14:48:38  Show Profile
Why does Sterling and Awlgrip have to be done by a professional?

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/08/2004 :  14:58:48  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by bsmudd</i>
<br />Why does Sterling and Awlgrip have to be done by a professional?
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Probably for the same reason we take our cars to a professional for painting rather than doing it ourselves in the backyard.

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seastream
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Response Posted - 04/09/2004 :  20:45:02  Show Profile  Visit seastream's Homepage
Hey, Douglas! What year is Triska? Is she a Carl Alberg design, of Cape Dory fame? I thought he got out of design after he sold in the early '90's to Robinhood Marine, ME. My Dad keeps a '84 CD 28 down in NJ. Triska looks like a CD but appears a bit less beamy and a trifle longer in the bowsprit area although that might be a result of the pix angle.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 04/09/2004 :  22:14:49  Show Profile
"Why does Sterling and Awlgrip have to be done by a professional?"

They are not very "tolerant" of application errors... they must be prepared, mixed, sprayed 'just so' to get a good job.

I think if you were an experienced auto painter you'd probably be able to apply them... if you're not hot with a spray gun...then leave it to the professionals.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 04/09/2004 :  22:25:13  Show Profile
"Why does Sterling and Awlgrip have to be done by a professional?"

They are not very "tolerant" of application errors... they must be prepared, mixed, sprayed 'just so' to get a good job.

I think if you were an experienced auto painter you'd probably be able to apply them... if you're not hot with a spray gun...then leave it to the professionals.

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