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Shelby
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Initially Posted - 03/29/2004 :  10:43:14  Show Profile
Hi all,

As much as I hate to, I'm considering selling my C25. I know that it is important to have everything "ship-shape", but was wondering about a couple of things. I have both an Outboard 2002 Honda 9.9 (works great) and old Inboard Volvo (saildrive) gas engine still installed (doesn't work at this time). Any thoughts if I should remove the inboard and have the hole in the bottom of the boat fixed, or leave it up to the new owner if they would like to use the outboard or get the inboard fixed. Everything else is in pretty good shape.

Comments are welcome.

Thanks.

Shelby
'82 C25 "Third S", #3208,SKSR,Honda 9.9, Lake Pleasant, AZ


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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 03/29/2004 :  12:37:26  Show Profile  Visit Leon Sisson's Homepage
Shelby,

I suggest you leave that saildrive alone if you're going to be selling the boat soon. don't try to anticipate the next owner's big ticket preferences and choices. Concentrate your efforts on cleaning, and fixing any really minor, inexpensive, but obvious problems. Most people make their purchase decisions based on outward appearances. (Just ask any salesman, beautician, or divorce lawyer.)

-- Leon Sisson

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Raskal
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Response Posted - 03/29/2004 :  16:02:48  Show Profile
Shelby, I've just finished the long hunt as a buyer for a move-up boat and the most constructive suggestion I can make would be CLEAN EVERYTHING! I couldn't believe how many people wanted me to spend $20K to $40K, the price of a spiffy new sports car, for boats they left in filthy condition at the end of the season and couldn't be bothered to give even a little cleaning to . A nice wash and wax of the topsides and some chrome polish, plus a dirt-free and fresh-smelling interior, will be something buyers won't be accustomed to seeing and may help move your boat faster than the others in your neighborhood.

Rich Kokoska

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/29/2004 :  20:23:05  Show Profile
Shelby: I don't think this comment really contradicts the previous... Buyers want to see that a boat has been well cared for. A disfunctional inboard is sort of like a dead cow in the kitchen--a pretty big presence that may add a few odors you've gotten used to, and which suggests that you have chosen to let things go rather than take care of them. It's also a big hole in the bottom to worry about...

I don't know how much a proper hull repair or engine repair might cost, so I won't argue too forcefully, but try to objectively put yourself in the potential buyer's position. Not many are looking for "choices"--they're looking for a PO that cared... The shiny hull and new Honda might raise their expections--the dead cow will destroy them. If you leave it there, don't be too surprised if the lookers don't call back.

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 03/29/2004 :  23:02:31  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
If your looking for ideas to make the boat sell quicker here are a few.

1) Take all of your personal gear home . Remove all of the personal stuff and uncluter the boat. Book, magazines, pillows , throws everything.
2) Remove any food stuff, ice chests included and any junk in the lazarette.
3) Clean everything including the bildge , lockers , galley , and empty any cabinets.
4) Put the sails away neatly and folded . Clean all the halyards and stow a line properly .
5) Put an air freshener in the head area . Before anyone comes to the boat open it up and air it out .
6) Clean as much of the topsides as you can . Give her a good scrub down .
7) Place a logbook or some photo's of the boats adventures where a prospective purchaser can view it along with any other boats important info , or maintenance manuals.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 03/30/2004 :  06:20:03  Show Profile
Hi Shelby,
When I sold my C22 I used a broker, and got way more for my boat than I could have without one, even if I take his commission out.
That said, if you have a broker in your area, get his opinion of your saildrive issue, and then his opinion of what he could do for you in selling your boat.

What follows is just my opinion too, since you asked for it: I wouldn't consider purchasing a boat with a dead Saildrive in it. But then again, I'm one of those weird folks who are willing to pay a premium for a boat in premium shape.

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 03/30/2004 :  08:32:13  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Gloss</i>
<br />When I sold my C22 I used a broker, and got way more for my boat than I could have without one
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I wish I could have used a broker to sell #1205, but the last brokerage in Sacramento, Stockdale's, closed it's doors last October when Mr. Stockdale retired. Lowell Richardson of Catalina Direct used to have a brokerage, but several years ago decided to move his business location to a smaller, newer building in an industrial park and now sells only new Catalina boats and Catalina replacement parts.

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