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JimB517
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Initially Posted - 04/05/2004 :  01:34:31  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
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04/04/04 photos http://www.indiscipline.org/cat25/april.html


Indiscipline 1978 FK SR #398

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 04/05/2004 :  11:05:45  Show Profile
That's a nice North main with shelf foot and flattening reef!

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Ben
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Response Posted - 04/05/2004 :  14:39:37  Show Profile
Thanks Jim. Keep'em coming. I'm still on the hard in Ohio.
Hopefully I'll be sailing soon. Until then, your pictures are like a tall cool drink to a thirsty man.


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cshaw
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Response Posted - 04/05/2004 :  19:34:25  Show Profile
BEAUTIFUL pictures!!!!

I went to your "Main Page" and it looked Like Indiscipline III's antiskid was mustard colored? (My Cat 27 had mustard colored antiskid and I thought it was beautiful). The picture posted in this thread looks like the antiskid is gray. Is my monitor screwed up or did you change colors???? If you painted it, what did you use???? (Looks nice!)

Chuck

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 04/05/2004 :  21:56:49  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by cshaw</i>
<br />BEAUTIFUL pictures!!!!

I went to your "Main Page" and it looked Like Indiscipline III's antiskid was mustard colored? (My Cat 27 had mustard colored antiskid and I thought it was beautiful). The picture posted in this thread looks like the antiskid is gray. Is my monitor screwed up or did you change colors???? If you painted it, what did you use???? (Looks nice!)

Chuck
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They have a herd of 25s lined up there. You can't tell the players without a program. Jim's is mustard.

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 04/05/2004 :  22:11:57  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com</i>
<br />[quote]They have a herd of 25s lined up there. You can't tell the players without a program.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Or at least the super secret Fleet 7 decoder ring.

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mmac
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Response Posted - 04/06/2004 :  00:20:41  Show Profile
Chuck,
The boat in the picture above is my boat, Mara. She has sand colored decks. I'm the the guy on the dock. That's Doug from Valkyrie loosing the mast pin so we can drop it. I had to rely on his trailer sailor expertise because the mast has been down only twice in the 25 years I've owned the boat.

Mike

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 04/06/2004 :  00:56:59  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
In the pictures on the web page, Indiscipline is the one flying the NA Burgee and American flag.

Yes, mustard decks, blue trim. A 1970s mod squad look.

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cshaw
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Response Posted - 04/06/2004 :  17:51:00  Show Profile
Mike and Jim,

Ahhh, NOW I understand! Jim, Luv the "MOD Squad Look!!! &lt;grin&gt;. Mike, only unstepped the mast in 25 years!!!! Wow! Your masthead sheeves need to be in a museaum for indestructable stuff!!!

Chuck

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mmac
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Response Posted - 04/06/2004 :  18:46:19  Show Profile
Chuck,
We've been so busy with the wiring that I haven't had a chance to inspect the masthead and sheaves yet. I've got a feeling it isn't going to be pretty and even a magic decoder ring won't cure it.

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Doug C.
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Response Posted - 04/06/2004 :  18:55:36  Show Profile
Mike,
Are you in the boatyard now? How did the bottom look?

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 04/06/2004 :  20:51:32  Show Profile
My original masthead sheaves were good as new after 25 years... they were made of some sort of nearly indestructible material (bakelite?) and were very heavy.

However, there was some sort of nylon sheet between the sheaves that looks like it was supposed to be a guide for the wire halyards and possibly reduce friction against the side of the masthead fitting... it was completely disintegrated.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 04/07/2004 :  00:46:50  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Thank goodness for daylight savings time!!!

I've been leaving work at 4:30, and by 5 I am sailing out the channel. Back in the slip by 8, and it is still light!

Winds have been excellent, seas gentle, boat speeds in the 4 to 5s and no other boats in sight. One thing, due to the full moon the current has been ripping. Tacking out against it is quite a challenge.

Home by 9, eat a warmed over plate, go to bed, wake up and do it all over again.

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mmac
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Response Posted - 04/07/2004 :  01:16:48  Show Profile
Doug,
I didn't back to the yard after I delivered the boat at 8:30 A.M. I hope to get down and inspect it in the morning.
Jim,
You lucky dog, you.

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cshaw
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Response Posted - 04/07/2004 :  18:42:01  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ClamBeach</i>
<br />My original masthead sheaves were good as new after 25 years... they were made of some sort of nearly indestructible material (bakelite?) and were very heavy.

However, there was some sort of nylon sheet between the sheaves that looks like it was supposed to be a guide for the wire halyards and possibly reduce friction against the side of the masthead fitting... it was completely disintegrated.
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My original mast was a standard rig and had the same type sheeves and divider. The one for the jib was split in two from the jib halyard tension over the years. My TR mast has nylon?(delrin?) sheeves that fit my rope halyards. Same thing happened to the jib halyard sheeve again though.

Maybe I use too much jib halyard tension when it blows, but Confetti sure sails better upwind with the draft pulled forward! Next time I am going to try to find (or make) solid aluminum sheeves, at least for the jib!

Chuck

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 04/07/2004 :  19:41:05  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">there was some sort of nylon sheet between the sheaves that looks like it was supposed to be a guide for the wire halyards and possibly reduce friction against the side of the masthead fitting... it was completely disintegrated.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote"> Bruce, the purpose of that spacer is to fill the space on the sides of the sheaves, so the wire halyard doesn't jump off the sheave. The boat didn't come from the factory with those spacers. I cut some discs out of a plastic "for sale" sign and they worked fine.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 04/07/2004 :  20:21:00  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
And CD sells one (a spacer) for about $2, I installed it a month ago, it handles all four sheaves.

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mmac
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Response Posted - 04/08/2004 :  10:11:44  Show Profile
The yard called today and said my bottom paint is pretty much gone. They want to prep the boat like a new one-sanding the bottom, 1 coat of primer, and two coats of paint. Cost would be $2,300. I said thanks, but no thanks. I told them to just put one coat on the bottom. They also want around $600 to replace my to hulls with through hulls.
There are times when a trailer boat would be nice to have.

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Mark Loyacano
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Response Posted - 04/08/2004 :  10:37:23  Show Profile
It isn't easy to advise you about bottom costs (especially in California). The estimate for replacements of to hulls is way too high if it is being quoted in conjunction with a haulout for bottom paint, too.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 04/08/2004 :  12:21:23  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Leave the to hulls as is (we'll keep an eye on them). I'll be happy to help you put a couple of extra coats on the bottom (if Driscolls will let you).

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mmac
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Response Posted - 04/08/2004 :  12:42:55  Show Profile
The to hull under the galley sink is weeping so it has to go. I don't think the job will be as high as they estimate. The next time I haul out I'll have plenty of time to do all that prep work myself.

Just want to get a coat on now and go sailing!

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