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John J.
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Initially Posted - 04/08/2004 :  19:05:31  Show Profile
I recently posted this question, but had such poor success, I thought I'd try again. I'd like to install some deckplares on the cabin sole of my '81 SK dinette. I'd also really like to avoid the stringers. I figure I can cut under the table with no problem. For those of you who do have deckplates, Where are they? As always, Thanks for your wisdom.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 04/08/2004 :  20:52:11  Show Profile
Do you want to put the deckplates on the port or starboard sides... or both? I have a couple on the Portside that I can send you a photo of...as far as the starboard...???

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John J.
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Response Posted - 04/08/2004 :  21:37:42  Show Profile
Actually, I would like to put them on both sides.A photo would be greatly appreciated, Thanks, ClamBeach

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 04/09/2004 :  03:09:35  Show Profile
John. I use a dinghy bailer to get water out of the bilge area that my cockpit "gusher" doesn't get. I simply enlarged the opening in one area under the teak plywood bilge cover over the swing keel so I could insert the bilge pump on the port side. There was n't room to starboard, so I just felt around and installed a deck plate on the starboard side of the keel trunk, just forward of the pedestal that holds up my L shaped traditional table. Sorry, no photos possible with my limited ability. I put a 3" (I think) Beckson there so I could get in with a sponge if necessary after pumping out any water. I missed stringers, and am glad I did this.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 04/09/2004 :  08:38:38  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
I have one under the table...no stringers at all there. We also have 3 others - one where the head goes (so that we can use bolts for the head instead of screws.) and two on the cabin sole. even with the setees. We didn't hit any stringers at all., and If I recall, that entire area is wide open. You should be able to see up in there via opening under the quarterberth. I realize its a lot, but way back when we had some rainwater difficulties.

We'd like to install one in the sole of the head area on the cabin sole
but don't know there is room to do so in that area. We think we accidentally quarantined some water under the sole there when we did a mast compression post repair a few years back and would like to go in and look at it.

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John J.
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Response Posted - 04/09/2004 :  19:07:31  Show Profile
Today I went to the local Catalina dealer where they have two "82's for sale. Each had two factory installed teak plates on the sole which gives good access to this area, yet the "81 has NO access anywhere. It's all fibreglass. I assume they figured out there was a problem here, just one year too late.

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 04/09/2004 :  21:40:05  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by John J.</i>
<br />Today I went to the local Catalina dealer where they have two "82's for sale. Each had two factory installed teak plates on the sole which gives good access to this area, yet the "81 has NO access anywhere. It's all fibreglass. I assume they figured out there was a problem here, just one year too late.
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Hi John,

That's really weird ... my boat has two factory-installed teak access plates below the table, just to the port side of the keel trunk. I have an L-dinette ... I wonder if that has anything to do with it

My boat was built in 1977, four years before yours was built.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 04/09/2004 :  21:55:22  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by John J.</i>
<br />. . . yet the "81 has NO access anywhere. . . <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

That is odd, OJ, a 1981, hull #2428 has the two teak access plates. There's even a recessed lip that the plates sit on.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/09/2004 :  22:00:11  Show Profile
My 80', hull 2151, has no access plates.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 04/09/2004 :  22:30:51  Show Profile
"A photo would be greatly appreciated..."

Have been up in Seattle all week... hope to visit the boat tomorrow. I'll take the camera and snag a couple pictures of the floor without the carpeting in place.

"My 80', hull 2151, has no access plates."

They may have run out of holes at the factory that day... ;&gt;) In some ways, the
Catalinas are like Mac's... I've seen lots of little differences even in boats of the same model and (approximately) the same vintage.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 04/10/2004 :  00:09:25  Show Profile
My '81, #2262 has both access plates in the sole.
Derek

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 04/10/2004 :  01:12:15  Show Profile
My '81 (#2657, trad. int.) has them. They may have come with some other option that some boats got, others didn't (perhaps the recessed lip was part of the interior liner mold which included that other option).

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 04/10/2004 :  07:44:47  Show Profile
My '79 SK, hull no. 1205, L-shaped Dinette interior, has two rectangular access holes on the port side of the keel trunk under the dinette table. These are molded in, factory-OEM holes. I have seen other C-25 Mk. I's and Mk. II's that don't have these holes. It seems likely that the faxtory was using at two different sets of cabin liner molds to build the boats, and one set of molds didn't have the bilge access holes.

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John V.
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Response Posted - 04/15/2004 :  21:56:50  Show Profile  Visit John V.'s Homepage
sorry to jump in so late and bring this thread around again. I went to Italy for a while for spring break and I am sorting through postings I meant to reply to. Here is my solution to the bilge access problem. I installed two 4" access ports one on each side of the keel groove. The starboard side seemed to collect more water so that was where I installed the bilge pump.



There is a stringer under the settee left of the port and another under the table leg to the right of the port as pictured (Aaarrrrgh fore and aft me hardees....) I'm in the middle of production directing "The Pirates of Penzance" with my 6th-8th graders and have been trying to get the boys to think "pirate". It leaves me limping about the school squinting out one eye..

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