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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 04/26/2004 :  12:23:30  Show Profile
<font color="blue">What is the "starboard sandwich"? - B.S.</font id="blue">

It is a backing plate that many have installed between the motor mount and the transom ... it helps spread the load and prevent "oil canning" on the transom.

Take a look at Frank's photo above (the one with his boat in the driveway) ... you can just make out a white panel of starboard material between his motor mount and the transom.

BTW, do you have a first name or a nick name we can use? I hate to address you as B.S., but maybe you're used to it

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bsmudd
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Response Posted - 04/26/2004 :  12:37:06  Show Profile
I see it there now. I have wondered about using a board to drop the motor mount lower on the transom than it would be able to normally go. Specifically, adding a board that could drop the lower starboard bolt of the motor mount off the side of the boat.

I see a lot of potential problems with that, but I'm curious whether its the worst idea I've ever had or just a bad one

I respond to Bernard, Shane, BS, BS Mudd, and a number of others, Shane is fine.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/26/2004 :  12:42:59  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by bsmudd</i>
<br />...I have wondered about using a board to drop the motor mount lower on the transom than it would be able to normally go. Specifically, adding a board that could drop the lower starboard bolt of the motor mount off the side of the boat.

I see a lot of potential problems with that, but I'm curious whether its the worst idea I've ever had or just a bad one...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Shane,

Well, by dropping the mount that low, you run the risk of submerging the powerhead of your outboard in certain sea conditions.

Which motor mount do you have?

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bsmudd
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Response Posted - 04/26/2004 :  13:12:17  Show Profile
I can't find a name on the mount, and I haven't seen it sold anywhere. It is white and the engine clampes to a piece of wood, but that probably doesn't help any.

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Randall
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Response Posted - 04/26/2004 :  20:05:51  Show Profile
Shane,

Sorry, I didn't respect the copyrighted name of the product "StarBoard" when I posted about "starboard sandwich". As Buzz explained, I was referring to using squares of the virtually indestructible (but horrifically expensive) plastic product to reinforce the transom on the inside & outside.

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77Gypsy
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Response Posted - 04/26/2004 :  20:10:13  Show Profile
I would go for the 25’ I’ve owned 20’s and 25’s on hunters and catalinas. I almost bought a hunter 25 and did not because the transom was very high and seemed too difficult to hang over the back to steer the motor. A 25’ shaft would have made it a bit more comfortable. I currently have a 25’ shaft on my catalina 25 and still have problems sometimes when too much weight is forward. The prop sometimes is just below the surface of the water and makes a horrible noise. It actually comes completely out of the water when I hit some wake. If you can, definitely go for the 25’

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Randall
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Response Posted - 04/26/2004 :  21:06:07  Show Profile
You've all sold me on the necessity of a 25" shaft engine. I just have to figure out the right engine/mount combo.

I really like the liveability of my Hunter 25. My wife, daughter and I have spent two rainy weekends aboard, and had fun. We just relaxed below, watched DVD movies, and speculated about all the adventures we are going to have aboard her. But I haven't untied it from the dock yet. I have 2k worth of Lewmar hatch and opening ports on order as we speak. The new engine & mount will be another 3k. New sails another 2k. Bottom job another??. Rebuild the trailer an additional??.

I hope this dang boat will actually sail reasonably well! I hate to think I bought a houseboat that can't get under low bridges or go into thin water. It'll really stink if it isn't fun and easy to motor around in! It would also be bad in an MOB situation if the man overboard was me. My wife must at least become comfortable motoring the boat in an emergency situation, even if she never learns to sail.

Steve, since you gave serious consideration to a H25, what would your engine solution be-- 25" shaft with remote controls & tiller extension? That is sounding better & better to me.

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