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 exterior teak...oil or varnish?
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bandito500
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Initially Posted - 04/28/2004 :  23:24:39  Show Profile
what are the pro's and con's to both of these? What is better for the wood?

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 04/28/2004 :  23:38:56  Show Profile
I prefer Sikkens (or similar) Cetol myself.

Easy and 'tolerant' to apply like oil, easy to touch-up.
Weathers better than varnish.

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 04/28/2004 :  23:49:21  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
I second Cetol.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 04/29/2004 :  00:02:35  Show Profile
I third it!
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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 04/29/2004 :  00:45:02  Show Profile  Visit Leon Sisson's Homepage
Cetol Marine or similar formula. More than one gloss and tint now available I believe.

-- Leon Sisson

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John G-
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Response Posted - 04/29/2004 :  07:12:53  Show Profile  Visit John G-'s Homepage
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I was a long time user of Watco an oil but I still had to sand too much each year so this year I am trying Armada Satin. I think it is less orange than the Cetol. So far I like the look and am glad I chose the satin finish. We’ll see at the end of the season if it holds up.
The only thing I varnish is the tiller and I keep a cover on it all season.

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 04/29/2004 :  07:56:18  Show Profile
Just to be different -- nothing beats the look of varnish. The initial prep is certainly more difficult -- you need to put on six or seven coats. After that, the annual work is exactly the same as with Cetol -- lightly sand and give it a coat. I had been using Armada (a Cetol clone), but found after a few years it began to darken. Then for a few years I just oiled the wood. Now it's all varnished, and, humbly, I have the best looking teak in the marina.

It's a matter of aesthetic preference and how much initial work you are willing to do.

I use West Marine's Skipper varnish, which was top rated by Practical Sailor.

Brooke

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Mark Loyacano
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Response Posted - 04/29/2004 :  08:16:41  Show Profile
I did Cetol Light.
Next time I will find all plastic replacements for any wood that has to be treated.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/29/2004 :  08:24:53  Show Profile
I like the Cetol satin for its more subdued finish because I believe it blends in more with the age of the boat. Even though my deck is in reasonable shape, putting a high gloss finish on the teak would contrast too sharply making the deck pale in comparison.

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RoofRoof
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Response Posted - 04/29/2004 :  10:30:54  Show Profile
After reading here in the forum, and hearing that Practical Sailor magazine chose Cetol....We used Cetol almost 2 years ago. It still looks awesome. We liked the real color of the wood, and ended up using approx. 3 coats of their "light" topped with a couple coats of "gloss." This after we started with the regular darker color, and then sanded it completely off as it made the wood too dark for our taste. I think there was one place that got worn down from chafing something, and a slight sand to roughen, and slathered some new on. Can't tell where that was done now. Highly recommend Sikkens Cetol!!!

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rglennchap
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Response Posted - 04/29/2004 :  11:57:39  Show Profile
I'll cast my vote for Cetol. Longevity is tremendous. Easy to apply. My neighbor in the slip next to me commented on watching my finish over the last couple of years and how well it held up --- all while he was sanding and stripping the varnish on his SeaRay. Diggin' the Cetol.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 04/29/2004 :  21:57:00  Show Profile
Another vote for Cetol--to me, the standard "orange" satin finsh dresses up boats the way I like to seen them in the marina. My PO used Armada--too dark for my taste and was peeling and flaking within a year of its application (just after I had bought the boat). Maintenance of Cetol is a snap, whereas varnish must stripped.

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