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ssteakley
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Initially Posted - 05/24/2004 :  19:00:38  Show Profile
The new owner of Moon Chaser is confronted with his first problem, Lake Tahoe is low and he can not use the ramp to launch. He called and asked if there was an attachment poing for a crane to hoist the boat into the water....I told him not to my knowledge but I had seen boats lifted with two straps. Has anyone done this before? And if you have pictures that would be great help for him,
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Steve

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 05/24/2004 :  20:54:56  Show Profile
Steve, as far as I know there are no attachment points on our boats for crane lift. He might look for a marina on Tahoe that has a travel lift that could do it for him. They also make a lift mechanicism that has two straps attached to a steel rectangular frame that we used in the steamship business to lift boats onboard ships when the whirley bird (single point pickup) crane had to be used instead of the gantry (four point pickup) crane.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 05/24/2004 :  21:21:49  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
What Frog said.....

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frogger
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Response Posted - 05/24/2004 :  22:25:08  Show Profile
There is a lifting diagram in the Cat 25 manual available on line. I would imagine that the setup would be similar.

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Jim Mc
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Response Posted - 05/25/2004 :  00:54:26  Show Profile
Tahoe Keys Marina at South Lake Tahoe has both a boat lift and a large fork lift with long blades. I have seen numerous keel sail boats launched off their ramp the past few weeks. The travel lift is $20/ft and the fork lift is $15/ft. Their number is 530-541-2155.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 05/25/2004 :  07:47:29  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
A boat the size of the 250 does not need the frame over the straps to keep the hull from getting compressed, Just hook the straps directly to the crane hook. The crane boom will be behind the mast, so you need to have your backstay off, people often take a halyard to the far rail in the winch area as a safety stay. We have a rig that has two short (2') chains with large shackles at each end. The chains are connected at the center by a large ring which goes on the crane hook. That provides a shackle for each strap end. A couple short lifts will help you get the placement right. A boat does not need to be level when being hoisted, they are often bow down. Level make everyone feel better but all that matters is that they don't dump and that is more a factor of the speed of the crane movement than strap placement. The thing that gets most people is whether the straps go over or under life lines. Without the "frame" above the boat holding the straps out you need the straps to go under the life lines. This is no big deal, as everyone will find out at the 05 nationals. We crane launch almost everything, even 22s. (Why get bearing wet when you do not need to?) I can get picture this week end if needed.

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 05/29/2004 :  06:42:44  Show Profile
Faced a similar problem with my 22 because Chicago harbors gave me a dry mooring in a park that only had a hoist. I had two webbed strapes made and hooked themonto the hook of the lift at the harbor I sailed from. At Nyack Boat Club they hoisted boats in and out of the water, and had their strapes on a "H" shaped frame.

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Dkn420
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Response Posted - 05/29/2004 :  11:12:37  Show Profile
I've also watched them use the lift at Tahoe Keys Marina to put all sizes of sailboats in the water, just as you go in the driveway at the Marina. I don't know the fellows name, but the manager of the Marina is the person to contact...if the lake is low you have to be careful in the fairway going into the lake once you get to the condos on the port side of the boat...Did you try Camp Richardson, which I believe has a boat ramp and is at the very South end of the Lake, actually you can see Camp Richardson from the Tahoe Keys area once you are on the lake itself...They have weekly races in the evenings and I watched them put several boats in with a lift of some sort one evening...so they do that all the time...Dan #727

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/01/2004 :  09:40:44  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
I included some crane shots in my Memorial Day Regatta page so you could see the relationship of the crane to the back of the mast. This was a J-24 and they us a lifting eye on one of the keel bolts so they can lift with a single cable rather than straps. Sorry I could not catch someone using straps.
http://homepage.mac.com/fhopper/PhotoAlbum50.html

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