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gmcdent
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Initially Posted - 08/17/2004 :  06:16:48  Show Profile
I am still bringing my C25 back to life after neglect by former owner. I have new shroud covers---the kind with the slit running the full length. Putting them on isn't easy even with the split. Should they be heated with a heat gun or boiling water, etc to soften them? Or is there a special tool to spread the slit so you can work the shroud into the cover. I have had six sitting in the cockpit for a week and can only get about 6 inches on the shroud and then I give up 10 minutes later. Better to be sailing.!!!!!
Help!

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George C. on At Last

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jwilliams
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Response Posted - 08/17/2004 :  11:43:29  Show Profile
George,

Not to be insulting, but are they the right size for the dia. of the shrouds?

If so, warming them, using water as a lube are good strategies. For Hey Jude, I found it impossible to slide them up the shrouds farther than a couple of feet.

What worked was to position them about where they belong, start the first few inches, then bend the cover almost at right angles so that the split opens up a little. I used a round chopstick to keep the opening moving as I pushed the cover on the shroud.

good luck.

Jim Williams
Hey Jude C25fk 2958
SF Bay

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Chris Reyher
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Response Posted - 08/17/2004 :  14:57:31  Show Profile
I know exactly what you are going through. I struggled with them and I finally "got smart" and purchased a larger size. It still took a little bit of time to get them on. They slide freely up and down the shrouds which enables me to periodically check their condition for breaks or corrosion.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 08/17/2004 :  16:18:44  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
They cause corrosion.

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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 08/17/2004 :  19:09:38  Show Profile
I don't recommend them since as Frank has said, they cause corrosion . Stainless needs access to free air to remain "stainless" which is why vinyl coated lifelines rot out. If you have these lifelines on your boat inspect them closely and you may find in some places, that the covering has split and a hint of rust is present due to expansion of the stainless as it oxidized. I believe that the technical term for this is crevice corrosion which also occurs within swaged fittings.

Why trap water, salt or what not on your shrouds and deprive them of the air they need to remain free of corrosion?

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 08/17/2004 :  21:33:13  Show Profile
They came with my boat, they were a pain, and when I replaced the standing rigging this year I threw them away. I don't miss them in the slightest. My genoa never comes inside the lifelines at that point -- what's the purpose?

Brooke

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MattL
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Response Posted - 08/18/2004 :  02:39:02  Show Profile
What do they do anyway? I have seen them on other boats. I have 5' of 1" PVC schedule 40 pipe on the front and upper shroud to help the 150 cross while tacking. thats it.


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DaveC
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Response Posted - 08/18/2004 :  12:17:34  Show Profile
MattL,

Great idea regarding the PVC on the shrouds! I just bought my boat this past year and have struggled with my 150 when tacking. It seems that the knots from my sheets lines to my clew seem to get caught on the shrouds when I tack. This requires me to do some back breaking winching or an ugly jibe manuver to get the head sail onto the correct side. The PVC idea seems like it would reduce the catching.

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Mark Maxwell
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Response Posted - 08/18/2004 :  15:56:35  Show Profile
I agree with the others that the tight fitting shroud covers cause more damage than they are worth. If you are trying to simply make older shrouds look pretty, they are probably due to be replaced. I did that with a C-22 I had a few years ago and the discoloration from the shrouds started to weep out of the split and stained the covers. So I was back to the original problem. If you want to protect your sail from wear, or tacking hang-ups, I've found that the 1" pvc idea works much better.

DaveC- A thought about your knots hanging up on the shrouds, you may be trying to sheet in the heads'l too fast. Try allowing the boat to make it's tack, set the mains'l and fall off just abit to allow the heads'l to fully cross over before you sheet it in. Then as it fills head-up again to your intended heading. With the 150, a little more time is needed to allow for this to happen (unless you have someone on the foredeck who can make the pass by hand). If you simply try to winch it across, you can damage your sheet, sail, shroud and/or even the chain stay. (just a thought )

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