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Uncas
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Initially Posted - 09/01/2004 : 16:15:53

It seems ever since I have owned my 1980 Catalina 25 it has been slightly heavy on the port side. It doesn't surprise me though as I have taken inventory of what is on the port vs starboard. On port is my outboard, gas tank,onboard cooler, 1 battery the head and some storage. On starboard is a battery, and the water tank and some minor storage. I just replaced my old outboard with a new Honda 4 stroke that weighs more and it has made the list slightly more pronounced. It just looks funny sitting at the dock.
Does every Catalina 25 do this? I would put a couple of sand bags on the starboard side to straighten it out but I don't want to give up the storage space. The list is about 3 degrees, just enough to grow scum on my port waterline stripe. Any comments or suggestions?

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Esteban
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Response Posted - 09/01/2004 : 16:26:22

Yup - sounds about right. I too have a slight list to port. It's a 1981 Catalina 25 and the only difference from what you describe is both my batteries are on the starboard side.

Esteban

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Esteban
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Response Posted - 09/01/2004 : 16:29:59

Hey Dave,

Where on Middle River are you? Im at Maryland Marina - there is a great Catalina 25 sailing club based of of there. Lot's of activities and club trips.

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PZell
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Response Posted - 09/01/2004 : 16:55:03

Me too. Tried restowing more stuff to starboard and added two sandbags,
about 60# apiece. That leveled it pretty good, but gotta carry that extra
weight.

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Tony Dillon
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Response Posted - 09/01/2004 : 18:24:16

Mental Floss has a slight list to port also. She is an '84 fin, standard rig. Head and holding tank are to port, batteries and motor to starboard.

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John V.
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Response Posted - 09/01/2004 : 22:35:06

My 77 SK also had a port list, with galley, head, holding tank and motor all to port she would look a bit lobber jawed. I solved the problem with 250 pounds of lead shot in 25 pound bags. Some bags are under the stbd. fresh water tank and others are near the stbd. battery. I can move them around to even out the trim after supplies are stowed, and they are more dense and take less space than sand. The first set I bought two years ago cost me about 6 bucks per 25 lb bag. What a shock when I came back to the hunting supply store and found that lead was going to cost me 17 bucks per 25 lb bag. What happened to lead? Someone told me that Chinese industry was buying so many metals that prices are up across the board. Nevertheless, I bought four more, and Nin Bimash II sailed beautifully for the six weeks I was aboard.

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Uncas
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Response Posted - 09/02/2004 : 09:40:49

Well so there ya go! The port list seems to come as a standard feature. I like the idea of the lead shot. I think I'll go that route because I don't want to give up the space that bags of sand would take up.

Estaban, I am now at Bowley's Marina. When I moved to Maryland a few years ago I kept my boat at Maryland Marina hearing that they had the largest Cat-25 fleet on the Chesapeake. I had some bad experiences there so I moved. During the winters the marina would move my boat around the yard. This wouldn't bother me except when they moved it they damaged it. Once they didn't crank up the front strut on the trailer and dragged it across the yard which bent it so that I could never totally retract it again. They said that they would replace it... they never did. The straw that broke the camels back was when they moved my boat the winter after I had the decks painted. When they moved it they didn't put the cinder block back under the front strut on my trailer (that they bent) and did not take precautions to make sure that the boat was stored higher in the bow so that water would drain from the cockpit. Well a foot of water from meted snow collected in the forward end of the cockpit and delaminated the fresh 2 pack urethane that I spent big bucks for. I carried two big strips of paint from my cockpit sole into the office and told Wayne that he lost a customer. I hope your experience there is better than the one I had. Bowleys is more oriented to power boaters but the facility is cleaner and I don't miss the 30 min. run up Frogmortar creek to the Middle River and out to the bay. We are the first marina at the mouth of the Middle River.

Uncas

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Esteban
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Response Posted - 09/02/2004 : 13:27:39

Bummer - it's my first year at Maryland Marina with the dry sail option. So far no complaints so let's see.

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clayC
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Response Posted - 09/02/2004 : 15:48:42

has any one ever changed sides of the outboard mount. I know they are on diffrent sides. I am about to paint the top sides of my boat and so now would be a good time to switch to the starboard side, if it makes any diffrence.
Clay

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 09/02/2004 : 16:08:41

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">has any one ever changed sides of the outboard mount?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">Some people have done it, but it's a fair amount of work to relocate the mount and repair the old holes, and I don't think it's worth it, unless you're a very serious racer.

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Bruce Baker
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Response Posted - 09/02/2004 : 16:18:53

Mine lists to port, despite the motor and battery being to starboard. I'm glad to hear that I'm not a freak of nature:)

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 09/02/2004 : 16:42:09

With a full starboard water tank, North Star sits nice and level.

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 09/04/2004 : 11:20:36

My 88 came with a port list - very noticable too. It turns out that on the later models without the dinette, batteries under the cockpit stairs, and holding tank under the v-berth, etc, the motor should have been mounted on the starboard side, not port. I lived with it until I had to have the hull repaired - motor boat hit me, and had the mount switched over. Repairing the holes is not a big deal. Getting to the bolts is another matter. Had to cut a hole in the wall of the fuel locker, which I later covered with one of those round screw-in covers.

Anyway, the boat still had a very slight port list which is removed when water is added to the water tank. I believe it's an 18 gallon tank under the starboard setee. All is now well.

Al
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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 09/04/2004 : 20:27:28

My '89WK Mk. IV came with a list to port DESPITE the fact that all possible moveable weight was on the starboard side, including the outboard motor, water tank, and one of the two house batteries. I try to keep only the lightest gear on the portside storage lockers, but there are some heavier items in the port side lazarette including an 18# danforth anchor, a 13# danforth anchor, 40' of chain for the anchors, and of course the fuel tank is on the port side (no way to move that). I guess all Catalina 25's have a considerable weight bias on the port side from the galley cabinets, and dinette table. The "portside list" seems to be more pronounced on the pre-1982 boats, probably because these had the outboard motor on port side. My old '79, hull #1205 (sold last spring to Debbie Behling), listed more than 5º to port, and it's sailing performance was so unbalanced that I finally went to the effort of moving the motor mount to starboard. This helped reduce the list to about 3º port, but the boat still felt stiffer and could handle more sail power on port tack. My new boat, #5857, seems to sail better on starboard tack, but it does list slightly to port when sitting still at the dock.

Edited by - lcharlot on 09/04/2004 20:28:16

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