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JimB517
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Initially Posted - 09/02/2004 : 15:18:56

Looking at Francis, it seems to be right over Georgetown and headed up the Exuma chain. All the places we visited : Georgetown, Rat Cay, Wardrick Wells, Little Farmers, Staniel Cay, Nassau, Chub, Cat, Bimini seem to be on the direct path. Most of those island people have so little. I hope they can stand up to 145 mph winds and 175 mph gusts - but who can? I wish I could see the Exuma banks and sound right now (from here in CA).

Good luck to all those in the path.

Indiscipline 1978 FK SR #398

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 09/02/2004 : 16:10:43

Have you gone to www.barometerbob.com?

Several Bahamas web cams on it.

Edited by - Lightnup on 09/02/2004 16:11:08

JimB517
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Response Posted - 09/02/2004 : 17:29:29

thanks for the link

hard to believe its sunny, 80 degrees with east winds at 17 knots there in the Abacos. Looks like a nice sailing day.....however the seas are forecast to be 6 to 8.

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thacket3
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Response Posted - 09/03/2004 : 08:18:54

Here in Ft Lauderdale, I am listening to neighbors put up the plywood that they could find. This is a very strange experience. On Thursday the announcement was made that the gas supply was running low, so a panic has ensued. I have two cars and waited about an hour for each to fill up. The grocery store literaly looks like a bomb went off. the isles are empty. I did find it ironic that although the isles are empty, the line for the lotto was as deep as I have ever seen it.

I tied up the boat as best as one can. Took the boom off and did what I could to reduce windage. This is truley misserable, and the sick feeling I have in my stomach hasn't gone away for two days now.
Tim
Right now we are begining to get some good gusts, a little fast moving rain but still sunny and bright.

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 09/03/2004 : 10:14:16

Many, many east coasters have fled over here to the west coast of FL only to find out that we, too, have no gas and no hotel rooms available. They're predicting lots of cars running out of gas on I-75 because none of the exits have gas.

Steve

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 09/03/2004 : 12:47:42

that sick feeling you have that won't go away....that was how I felt when San Diego was burning last October. Driving up the road every hour to see how much closer the flames were. Packing the cars, deciding what we couldn't live without, trying to keep the kids calm, staring at the TV for any little tidbit of fresh news, rumors flying (so and so house burned...no it didn't...yes it did).

You are not alone.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 09/03/2004 : 13:17:31

Looks like BarometerBob is off the air....

Oscar
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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 09/03/2004 : 14:23:57

Frances' projected path has moved a hundred miles closer to J'ville. I've done all I can do other than move Chick-a-pea out to a mooring. But I will have to swim back to shore. Although I have a raft, I don't want to try rowing it in any kind of wind. Otherwise I may end up across the river with Pretty Penny II. Made one mistake unstepping the mast. I neglected to remove the fiddle block to the vang and it was close enough to the deck that when the mast was lowered it got crushed a little and put a nice ding in the gelcoat. It took me 2-1/2 hrs. Also I needed to remove my spreader light while the mast is lowered. It still worked, but was full of water. So I am returning it to West Marine. Anybody else have that problem with their spreader lights?

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triley
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Response Posted - 09/03/2004 : 16:20:35

Good luck all of you. I share your dread, and am glad we are
up here in Minnesota. What scares me, though, is a hiurricane season
like 1991. That was the year of "The Perfect Storm", and it wreaked
havoc on my summer home in Maine. Good luck tonight and tomorrow.

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JJM
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Response Posted - 09/03/2004 : 17:06:50

Good Luck to all of you that are going through this storm. My prayers are with you.

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 09/03/2004 : 20:14:08

I just wish the friggin' thing would get here, do its thing and move on! This 5 day build-up for a storm going 9 mph is a pain in the butt.

Steve

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/03/2004 : 20:48:02

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lightnup
 I just wish the friggin' thing would get here, do its thing and move on! This 5 day build-up for a storm going 9 mph is a pain in the butt.
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I remember our first hurricane after moving to the East Coast from Michigan, having grown up in Illinois and gone to school in Indiana, with several close calls with tornados... Here in CT, it was surreal--knowing the thing was coming, but driving to work in the morning, looking at the clouds, knowing that night was going to get crazy. In the midwest, a tornado warning gives you maybe 20 minutes--maybe 40--maybe none. Then there's the damage--the hurricane damages things over a huge area, but a big tornado, while concentrated in a smaller area, totally destroys things and makes them disappear. I don't like either one... but at a gut level, I like earthquakes even less!

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 09/04/2004 : 00:13:58

Ben, I would unhook the shore power before the winds and tide comes, if they do, that cable has no stretch and could get hot and catch fire before the electric goes out.
I have 11 lines on PennyII and still don't feel really comfortable if we were to get 75 MPH or higher winds.
If we are lucky it will continue to weaken before it comes ashore.
Good luck and God speed to us all in Frances path.

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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 09/04/2004 : 00:21:55

Good luck to all who are in Frances's path, and hopefully a safe weekend during the passage of the storm through the area.

Edited by - oldsalt on 09/04/2004 00:24:02

Gloss
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Response Posted - 09/04/2004 : 07:52:15

One of my biggest complaints of my C25 is the small size of the cleats. I imagine it makes putting out extra lines harder when trying to make your boat safe in a storm.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 09/04/2004 : 09:34:39

Especially if you use 1/2 inch lines, it is impossible to add more 1/2 inch lines. Matter of fact you can't even add 3/8 inch lines to them. So you just tie them to anything that you can, such as mast base, winches and track cleats if you have them. Then pray a little more than normal.

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John V.
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Response Posted - 09/04/2004 : 09:46:18

Hey Dave,

How long have you lived in CT? I lived in Pound Ridge NY when, I think it was Hurricane Gloria came through in 1985. Though we were 12 miles inland we took quite a beating. It took months to restore power to long island. Years earlier builders had put suburban utility lines along the back of lot lines instead of on the street. That made repairs nearly impossible. Linda and I were without power for a realtivley short period, and our home was undamaged. though we now live in Ohio we still have a home in Michigan.

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Jeff McK
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Response Posted - 09/04/2004 : 11:36:44

The Admiral & I just got back this AM from St. Pete after a week of sailing school. We spent half of the time yesterday helping strip jennys off of several larger boats, and got a good look at their preparations. Doubled 1/2" was the minimum for up to 28' boats, with 5/8"-3'4" for the big boys. Spring, dock, winch, rail, mast, etc. Looked like a spiderweb, but they are still sweating it out.

Good luck & prayers for all.

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atgep
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Response Posted - 09/04/2004 : 11:37:51

I have been in Ft. Worth since Thurs. There are about 200 planes here from the southeast. The boat is in the back yard tied down. Looks like the Jax fleet will do well. I am waiting till Tues before we are allowed to fly back. Anyone in DFW need a crewman for a sail? Good luck everyone.

Tom.

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Waterboy
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Response Posted - 09/04/2004 : 22:07:33

Any 'problems' I might have are now in a larger perspective. My best to anyone in Francis' wake or path. I wish I could help.

Greg in AZ

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 09/04/2004 : 23:03:41

They keep showing footage of sailboats in the West Palm area broken loose from their moorings and washed ashore. It's painful just to watch.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 09/04/2004 : 23:37:41

I was down on the boat during a couple 50 mph Pacific storms last winter... the mooring lines were as tight as fiddlestrings. The rigging was screaming... mast shuddering.. you could literally feel the energy in the boat.

I can't imagine the loadings that 100 mph winds coupled with a storm surge would generate...
(and I hope I don't get the chance to find out firsthand)

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Waterboy
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Response Posted - 09/05/2004 : 00:10:25

from Intellicast.com's forecast for Palm Bay:

Saturday night:
Very windy with rain, heavy at times. Low near 75F. Winds ENE at 70 to 90 mph. Rainfall over two inches. Winds could occasionally gust over 100 mph.

wow ...

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oldsalt
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Response Posted - 09/05/2004 : 10:30:57

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Gloss
 One of my biggest complaints of my C25 is the small size of the cleats. I imagine it makes putting out extra lines harder when trying to make your boat safe in a storm.
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The way to overcome this is to "dip the eye" of docklines that are cleated to the dock with the loops attached to the boat cleats. If you pass the loop of the second line through the first and then over the cleat the cleats on a C 25 can easily accomodate two 1/2" lines and they will never slip over the cleat.

Of course this works best if you're in non tidal waters or tied up to a floating slip since you can't adjust your docklines from the boat.

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 09/05/2004 : 11:35:13

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Gloss
 One of my biggest complaints of my C25 is the small size of the cleats. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I agree. The small cleats on both of the Catalina 25's I have owned (and the Cat 22 I had for a couple of years), cause me problems every time I join a raft-up. They are too small for a sailboat this large and don't allow for any extra lines. When I am in a raft-up situation with boats on either side, I might have a bow anchor out, using 1/2" rode, and bow lines to the boats on either side, and there is simply not enough cleat capacity for that amount of line. I have thought about adding another pair of 8" stainless steel cleats up on the bow, but there isn't really enough room for them as the anchor locker hatch pretty much fills the whole area where one would want to put a cleat.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/05/2004 : 11:41:25

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by John V.
 Hey Dave,
How long have you lived in CT?...
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About 25 years, first in Monroe (north of Bridgeport) and now in Darien. We had a 17' Daysailer in a slip here during Gloria--waves went all the way across the 100-yard town beach parking lot and into the town boat club, creating some havoc, but 700 lb. Shrimp made it through fine. The slips are not really designed to handle a C-25 in those conditions. The 1975 Gloria, which we were in the eye of in Monroe, was less damaging but very interesting (going through the surreal eye phenomenon, with wind and rain from the east, followed by dead calm and bright sun, followed by heavy wind from the west). The 1985 Gloria caused the name to be retired... (which is done based on damage--there won't be any more Franceses or Charlies).

Frances is really taking her time in FL, as if she's enjoying the place. I can't imagine being in the intersection of the paths of Frances and Charlie--that's like a combination from Joe Louis. And now here comes Ivan--currently charted toward S. Florida. We've got to watch him up here--a little more of a right turn and he could be going up the coast. Actually, let's hope for a BIG right turn out into the Atlantic!

Best wishes to all in Florida--there's not much more I can do, but I'm sending a check to the Red Cross today.

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