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sailgal
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Initially Posted - 09/10/2004 : 17:11:45

I was thinking the other day as I took the boom off as well as the jib (hurricane prep) what a hassle...but then I thought about you folks who trailer a lot, go throught his whole break down process often. What tips of tricks did you come up with to make the set up/break down faster. I think I recall Oscar had hardware on his CDI furler rather than a lot of bowline knots.....anyone want to share.....

Sure hope Ivan spares Florida, the stress levels are high, another hit will take a toll, God Bless!!

Suzie, Tropical Sleigh

WB #619 Sarasota FL.

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bear
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Response Posted - 09/10/2004 : 19:15:57

Suzie, After I take my jib off I just wrap the furler line around the furler base, that way when I put the jib back on I don't have to count turns of the furler [CDI]. Everything on the boom I take off as one unit. Not removing the sail from the boom, just wrap it up with the sail cover and remove as one unit after removal of the sail from the mast. I'm not sure about your mast but I do count the threads on the turnbuckles for easy rigging after mast goes back up.
God Speed folks!! C250 WB

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Bubba
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Response Posted - 09/10/2004 : 20:41:44

Suzie, I use a cheap set of [url="http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=7914"]calipers[/url] to measure the gap between the studs inside the turnbuckles before I loosen the rigging. Same idea as Bear's counting threads, but I get to use a tool!

Seriously though, best of luck with Ivan. I'll be thinking about ya!

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 09/11/2004 : 11:14:48

Suzie, adding my hope that you and Florida will be spared further storms that damage and disrupt your lives.

Even with a few quick pins, trailering requires a significant investment in settup time. If one is quick, it can be done in a half hour but that in my opinion will risk something happening sooner or later. Much preferred for me is a slower method which includes double checking any thing that can go wrong which allows plenty of time for observation. It normally takes me an hour but often conversations with bystanders errupt which make it longer (no, I've never suffered any rants from power boaters at the ramps, maybe I'm lucky).

I agree with the method of leaving the sail on the boom with the cover and pulling it all at one time. If one has a sock for the furler, the jib can be left on which will save some effort.

My situation is different than most... mine is in prep of 2-4 weeks of cruising making it seem insignificant to the whole.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 09/11/2004 : 12:02:03

Yep, it's not quick if done right. Indeed leave the sail on the boom, take the whole thing doen below. Yes I put snap shackles on the jib tack and halyard, and the halyard connects to a small tackle with a v-groove block which in turn attaches to the furling drum with a snap shacle. It allows for quick installation and halyard tension adjustment. I will be doing it one more time when we do the transfer of command with new owner. I will try to remember to take a picture of this setup.

Oscar
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sailgal
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Response Posted - 09/11/2004 : 12:09:29

Oscar I liked the jib set up and seems to make take down/set up easier. A photo would be great if you get a chance.
Thanks everyone for the tips.

Keeping our fingers and toes crossed here on the Gulf Coast....still to early to tell what Ivan will do, but after the last two hurricanes panic is setting in around town. The price of living in paradise....

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Response Posted - 09/11/2004 : 12:40:37

Suzie here is a link to an old post, which focussed on just taking the furler on and off which I think, is the hardest part. Also there was some other suggestions made which might help. Keith http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6352

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528
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Response Posted - 09/12/2004 : 09:36:02

Bungee Cords. I use them everywhere when raising the mast. They hold the furler from going over the side, the turnbuckles from twisting, the shrouds from catching. I have been refining my technique since last fall. I now use very little rigging tape to hold things, basically just to saftey the pelican hooks on the baby stays. After the mast is lowered, all bungees are used to secure the CDI to the mast and then the mast to the carrying rollers. I modified the rear roller stand to ride in the rudder gudgeons, works great. Again, I will post pics if anyone is interested.

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At Ease
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Response Posted - 09/12/2004 : 21:11:02

No matter how fast you set up...having done that for years, it sure is nice to keep the boat in a wet slip!

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tmhansen
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Response Posted - 09/15/2004 : 01:09:17

I have found that I much prefer to drop the mast while tied to a dock and then motor over to the launch ramp, oposite on launch. I'd rather risk losing some pins over the side while in the water than me or my wife while in the parking lot with the deck above head level. I drop the mast with the sail wrapped around the furler, I have a sunbrella cover. The sheets are wrapped around and around the sail. The furling line is wrapped backwards completely into the drum. On set up I can simply pull it all out. Then I unwind the sheets until I have about 6 or 7 wraps left. Then I pull on the sheets while keeping tension on the furling line. I end up with 6 or 7 wraps on the drum. I then reave the furling line back to the cockpit. Like Dave I use lots of bungie cords, the kind with the balls on them. I like Arlyn's blocks for holding the furler and will get to it someday. I use a wash down brush to splint the end of the furler past the mast for now. We keep the main on the boom too.

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