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Gloss
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Initially Posted - 09/12/2004 : 11:47:45

At my sailing club my boat is beside a Catalina 22 Mark II, and a classic Catalina 22. Both beautiful boats.
But the next slip down is a Hunter 26 Clorox bottle, floating way high. I checked it out and am confused by the way it is set up.
For example, the furling headsail has it's sheets going to a fixed fairlead on the cabin top, but there are two tracks mounted on the rails by the stern on each side of the boat withnothing attached to it? I wonder what that is all about. It also has two stays on each side of the mast, one going to a swept back spreader going to the masthead, and the other one going from just below the spreaders down to the deck. But the upper swaged fitting on the stay doesn't fit the mast exactly and sticks out from the mast, and then the wire has about a 5 to 10 degree bend at the end of the fitting before going down to the deck. Can you say stressed out fitting?
It has a permanantly mounted non adjustable mast crutch on the transom.
The aluminum tiller is very attractive, I bet it feels good on a hot day.

I love my Catalina even more now.

Frank Gloss
Formerly 89WK/TR
85 Ericson 32-3 shoal draft "Molto Bene"

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 09/12/2004 : 12:35:03

Frank, stop oogling the neighbors....next thing you know they'll call HS and report suspicious behaviour.....

Oscar
C42 # 76 "Lady Kay"
C250 # 618 Good Survey, check's in the mail.
http://www.woodenshoemusic.com/C250WB

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 09/12/2004 : 17:28:43

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Gloss
 but there are two tracks mounted on the rails by the stern on each side of the boat withnothing attached to it?

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These tracks are probably for genoa sheet cars to be used with a a
big 170% drifter.
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But the upper swaged fitting on the stay doesn't fit the mast exactly and sticks out from the mast, and then the wire has about a 5 to 10 degree bend at the end of the fitting

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Ive seen these fittings on very small sailboats like Hobie Cats and sailing dinghys. I don't remember what they are called, but I think they are designed to allow for very fast set-up and take-down, on boats that are trailered frequently. I don't recall ever seeing these used on anything larger than a Santana 20. however.

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The aluminum tiller is very attractive, I bet it feels good on a hot day.
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Yuk. I know that market research indicates that fiberglass boat buyers, both sail and power, want less maintenance to have to do, so that even big boats like the Catalina 36 have less exterior wood than they used to have, but an aluminum tiller just plain looks CHEAP. Even the 1984 MacGregor 25 I had as my first sailboat had a wood tiller (although the rest of the boat was mostly bare plastic, even inside, except for the door to the head). You do have to admit that the aluminum tiller on a Hunter is permanent, though. It will never rot or delaminate, and I think it may be engineered to bend at a certain point of stress to save the much-more-expensive rudder from being broken by extremely hard manouvering forces. We have one Hunter 26WK in our club, and the owners love it, having moved into the boat from Catalina 22 #138 (a very winning racer here on Folsom Lake with enough bullets on her transom to make Dennis Conner envious). No wait, I just checked our club roster, their boat is a Hunter 270WK, not a Hunter 26, so it's probably not the same boat as Frank Gloss is talking about.

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I love my Catalina even more now.
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Amen! I still think the late model Cat 25's are the best trailerable sailboat available in their price range (assuming you can find one!). The Nor'Sea 27 ($125,000 new) and Pacific Seacraft Dana 24 ($69,000 new) are fantastic boats, too; both trailerable, and are real blue-water boats, but cost many times as much as a C-25. In fact the Nor'Sea 27 costs more than I paid for my HOUSE 15 years ago FWTW. What about the ComPac brand boats, anyone seen one of these up close to compare with a Catalina 25?

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Mark Loyacano
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Response Posted - 09/12/2004 : 17:39:45

[/quote] What about the ComPac brand boats, anyone seen one of these up close to compare with a Catalina 25?
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I have been considering the inboard diesel model to replace my Cat 25. They are featured in "Good Old Boat" and on the web. Very impressive and more of a trailerable.

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Gary B.
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Response Posted - 09/12/2004 : 18:14:51

I have only glanced at the ComPac, but they look to be sturdy and pretty well made. However the hull design looks slow to me, and I think they are VERY expensive....not a Nor Sea nor Dana price, but way out of my budget.......

Gary B.
Vice Commodore
Encore! #685 SK/SR.....with TONS of upgrades, and every bit as good for me as a newer design (although the separate gas locker would be nice).

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/12/2004 : 19:19:28

I took a hard look at a new Com-Pac 25, which used to be the Watkins 25. It's clearly not drawn by the same designer as the other CPs, but is a very nice boat--standing headroom, lots of great looking teak joinery, and at the dock, a very solid, stable feel. Like other CPs, it has a long, shallow-draft keel, and probably can't keep up with a Catalina 25 or 250 except maybe in very heavy chop, where its weight will help. Five years ago, its price was right around $40K new--a poor man's Pacific Seacraft Dana. Depending on what somebody is looking for, that could be a good buy as new boats go.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 09/12/2004 : 21:59:22

I have been told by Com Pac owners that they don't point worth a darn. Their keel is a bulbous extesion of the hull filled with concrete. No foil shape at all.

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