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Scotd
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Initially Posted - 10/28/2004 : 20:20:16

Ok when I dropped the Mast, I really dropped the mast and broke my roller furler and ripped the 150 Genoa, I am going to need a new forestay also. The roller furler that I broke was an old CDI early 1980s and the Sail would have been about the same year and the same with with the forestay.

So the Question is should I just get a new forestay and a hank on sail such as a 110 or bite the bullet and get the works. Money is a little tight right now. I am guessing it will cost about $1300 to $1500 for CDI furler, forestay and a new 150 Genoa.

Any other Ideas? Of course I do have some time, we can't put the boat back in till May.

Scot Dannenbring
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#3376 1982 SK/SR
Rapid City, SD
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 10/28/2004 : 21:15:48

First, have you checked with your insurance carrier? It sounds like accidental damage that should be covered.

Second, was the old, damaged sail your only headsail, or do you have other sails that are made to use on a furler? If you have others, you will probably want any new sail to be a furler, and not hanked on. Otherwise, your other sails will be useless.

Third, do you want to have a furler, or do you want to change over to hanks?

Fourth, ultimately you have to decide the question of economics. You know your own situation better than we do. But, when I needed two new sails a couple years ago and money was temporarily tight, I found ways to reduce my expenses and fit the sails into my budget.

Edited by - Steve Milby on 10/28/2004 21:16:30

Lightnup
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Response Posted - 10/28/2004 : 22:25:38

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">when I needed two new sails a couple years ago and money was temporarily tight, I found ways to reduce my expenses and fit the sails into my budget. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Yeah, eating and electricity are so over-rated anyhow.

Steve

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/28/2004 : 23:47:51

Hi Scot...

Have you sailed a boat like the C-25 with hanked-on sails? If so, what did you think about handling them--especially getting them down, folding them, bagging them, etc? It sounds like you aren't a racer (or at least not a serious one--we all "race" when there's another boat in sight

), so the performance advantages may not matter much, as they don't to me. So it comes down to convenience--primarily pulling the string to furl the sail and not having to do anything else to it before you go sailing again. Often, when I'm in no hurry to get anywhere, I just pull out the 130 and leave the main covered on the boom--because it's less hassle. I can't help smiling every time I roll up the sail (having sailed with hanks for almost 50 years before Passage).

Only you can make the value judgement--we can only remind you of the objective factors.

(Get the furler.)

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 10/29/2004 : 08:07:43

I've seen the CDI FF4 furler w/o bearings priced at $460. You can probably get a good used 130 or 150 for $400 or $500. The forestay can't be more than $100.

I wouldn't shift gears and switch to hank-on equipment. Once you change it's expensive to go back. Check with your insurance company then give Catalina Direct a call.

or

I could sell you a three year old 150 hank-on for fairly cheap. I'm switching to a furler.

Al
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atgep
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Response Posted - 10/29/2004 : 08:23:11

You did not say what broke on the furler. Replacement parts should be available for almost anything. You may need less than you think. I have a harken and know it breaks down into a small box of parts.

Tom.

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Charlie Vick
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Response Posted - 10/29/2004 : 08:36:25

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by aeckhart
 
I could sell you a three year old 150 hank-on for fairly cheap. I'm switching to a furler.

Al
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Al, don't you have a tall rig?
Scot's is a standard.
If it was a standard 150 and Scot didn't want it I'd take it off your hands.

CVick
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Scotd
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Response Posted - 10/29/2004 : 16:50:25

Thank you all for your input, I will replace the roller furler this spring with a new sail and headstay. I do like not having to go forward to put up or take down the sail, Safety first.

Thats what I will expain to the wife anyway.

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 10/29/2004 : 17:21:18

I just set up a jib downhaul, or dousing line, and with the cost of Harken hardware and the line, I'm about 1/3 the way to the cost of a new roller furler.

Oh well, Magellan and Columbus didn't have roller furlers either (or Hondas or Evinrudes) and they did okay.

Steve

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John Mason
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Response Posted - 10/29/2004 : 17:44:40

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by atgep
 You did not say what broke on the furler. Replacement parts should be available for almost anything. You may need less than you think. I have a harken and know it breaks down into a small box of parts.
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Those old CDI furlers (aluminum "foil" sections - not to imply they're made from aluminum foil) almost no parts are available anymore. Might try and find someone with one they no longer use and get some parts that way.

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Scotd
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Response Posted - 10/29/2004 : 18:13:39

Yes I did check the CDI web site http://www.sailcdi.com/sprimain.htm. The parts I need are NA I could go to a machine shop and have them make the parts, but then I would have the same trouble with the 4 foot aluminum sections. I am just going to bite the bullet and upgrade. If the new Model lasts for 23 years like the last one I think I will be very happy.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/29/2004 : 21:15:38

Scot: From all I've heard, it's worth it to get the bearing upgrade on the CDI.

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