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zebra50
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Initially Posted - 11/26/2004 : 10:28:49

Just for general information. The damage occurred during the week just prior to hauling out. Docked on a Sunday, and decided to not pull it out until the next weekend. See what procrastination gets you. Seems that NE winds caused the port stern line to break, the boat then swung into the starboard stern against the other pier, and also banged the bow many times into the dock. Maybe snubbers would have helped, and or a spring line. Should be real fun getting this fixed. The OB took some good hits also.

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Al
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Response Posted - 11/26/2004 : 14:10:57

You mean you didn't you didn't want a portlight for the V-berth?!

These things happen, and when they happen to me with nobody being hurt, I'm just grateful and figure they're part of my education and move on. Don't let it ruin your otherwise good season...!

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Response Posted - 11/26/2004 : 14:32:20

As previously mentioned, nobody got hurt. Which reminds me of the old saying, "If money will fix it, it's not a problem."

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 11/26/2004 : 15:12:27

Hi Jay,

That's terrible ... 'sorry to see the damage ...

We have a few "good Samaritans" at our marina who roam around and "save" boats from time to time ... it's too bad that no one came to your boat's rescue.

I thought I'd pass on an idea I stole from someone ... maybe it will help prevent that sort of damage in the future. If you have finger docks on each side of your boat, you can run a line in a "V" with a fender at the "point" of the V. This contraption helps guide the boat into the slip when you're docking, and it also helps keep your boat from swaying from side to side. If you don't have a finger dock or a piling on the starboard side to tie the line to, this won't work ... otherwise, it is cheap and easy to make:

'Sorry about your damage ... I hope you can get her back into shape without a lot of trouble and expense ... good luck!

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zebra50
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Response Posted - 11/27/2004 : 10:41:26

great idea but ours are double slips. Fortunate thing that there was no other boat in at the time. The marina people did secure it once they were award of what was happening. I agree with the saying "If money will fix it, it's not a problem." I told the repair people to paint a blue stipe donw the bow so they wouldnt have to worry about matching the white with the white. Might look good!

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 11/27/2004 : 11:58:31

I've often thought about putting a fat stainless steel cover on my bow....not just for dock rash, but also for whatever goes BOOOM in the night.........you mentioned a blue stripe....how'bout some sharks teeth....

Oscar
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zebra50
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Response Posted - 11/27/2004 : 15:47:22

I was also thinking about using diamond plate. Kind of give it the destroyer look.

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Jeff McK
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Response Posted - 11/27/2004 : 22:34:36

DANG!!

I guess that's a real drawback from mooring in a metal dock area. Sorry about the damage. Diamond plate may not be a good choice: it is usually aluminum, and softer than it looks. If you want to go all out, why not one of those sculpted 3 foot long bronze rams the romans & byzantines used on their galleys? Not only would it add a lot of class, but would deter the stinkpotters & port-tackers from cutting across your bow when you yell RAMMING SPEED!!!

BTW: if that gray hose in the close-up is from the anchor locker drain, have the shop check that it's not cut. It looks kinda chewed up from your photo & could lead to a real mess if it drains into the v-berth.

Good luck with the repair job.

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Jeff McK
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Response Posted - 11/27/2004 : 22:38:12

Buzz:

That's a nifty idea you shared about the docking guide. What size/type of lines & fender did you use?

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Response Posted - 11/28/2004 : 00:09:34

Holy crap! What kind of dock line would snap in less than a hurricane? I have always used 1/2" golden braid on my boats, and have never needed snubbers. I hope you find some line that works for you.

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 11/28/2004 : 11:41:25

Buzz: That's a nifty idea you shared about the docking guide. What size/type of lines & fender did you use? - Jeff

Hi Jeff,

I rigged that quite a while ago, but as I recall, I bought the materials at Wal-Mart. The line is 50 ft of 1/2" nylon braid, and the fender is 16".

The line will stretch over time, so it's necessary to tighten it every now and then. Also, I've seen larger fenders at the point, but I don't think a bigger one is necessarily better ... on the other hand, if you already have a spare fender lying around, I wouldn't hesitate to use a bigger one.

One boo boo I made that is easy to correct ... if you make something like this, tie a stopper knot in front of each end of the fender ... that way the fender won't be pushed sideways when the bow comes in contact with it during docking.

I really like this contraption ... it's cheap and easy to make, and it saved my bow at least once when I was coming in too hot and my outboard died

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Jeff McK
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Response Posted - 11/28/2004 : 16:46:25

Buzz,

Thanks for the details. This will be a big help when I'm coming in single-handed or with an inexperienced crew.

Jay: You didn't mention if it was present, but make sure you have chafing gear on your dock lines anwhere you go against anything that could eat up the line.

Edited by - Jeff McK on 11/28/2004 16:49:59

ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 11/30/2004 : 09:50:08

I always run a pair of spring lines in addition to the fore and aft lines. They control fore-aft movement due to any surge and having 4 lines on the boat gives one a warm, fuzzy feeling. It takes a double failure to get in trouble.

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 11/30/2004 : 14:27:51

My first night after buying Chick-a-pea a bad squall came across the river and she banged the dock quite a bit. Tore five dock boards off. But the damage to the boat was minimal. The starboard pulpit seat is slightly bent. Nobody notices except me. Now I keep Chick-a-pea moored with eight lines, bow, spring (to the wenches), breast and stern. The starboard bow line is doubled as that is exposed to the weather most when the summer thunder boomers come across the five miles of river. Actually that is nine lines isn't it?

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 11/30/2004 : 14:56:06

... spring (to the wenches), breast and stern ... - Ben

Hmmmm ... interesting setup Ben ... 'got any photos?

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Charlie Vick
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Response Posted - 11/30/2004 : 16:03:52

If somebody didn't grab that one I was going to!
CVick

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Jeff McK
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Response Posted - 12/01/2004 : 15:57:53

Hmmm. Surges, warm fuzzy feelings, boat bondage? Sounds like you guys have too much free time.

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zebra50
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Response Posted - 12/04/2004 : 12:01:16

Well the bad news isnt as bad as I thought it might be. Estimate for repairs-bow, stern, motor, linkage to pedestal only $1600. Could have been a lot worse.

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 12/04/2004 : 16:33:45

This set up gives me eight chances to grab a line coming into the slip. Kinda like landing on a carrier I suppose. If you miss one wire there is another one after it. Of course I'm not going as fast. As you can see, it is quite a bit of open water to the south-west.

Edited by - Ben - FL on 12/04/2004 16:35:51

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