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Frank Hopper
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Initially Posted - 12/12/2004 :  19:33:17  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 12/12/2004 :  21:53:09  Show Profile
Well, you wouldn't get very good mileage draggin' it.

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thacket3
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Response Posted - 12/13/2004 :  10:07:16  Show Profile
With all due respect, not everyone who owns a C-25 has open space to keep a trailer. In a city, where the cost of living is already high, the added expense of renting space at a parking lot (if you can find one that would allow a trailer) may push some out of having a boat. Additionally, I lived for six years in a city without owning a car. Too expensive and rarley used (when I first moved there, my parking space, outside, was 150 per month. That was in the late 80's). My marina utilizes a parking garage which you pay by the hour, so no chance for storage there either. My current homeowners association does not allow parking trailers in the drive, so out of luck there.

Living in a hurricane zone has it's disadvantages definatley. However, this last season was far and away above normal. Miami, where I keep my boat, hasn't seen a storm since Andrew in 92. The law of averages would state that eventually another Andrew will come along. Then when we get those three-four days of notice of the storm, my priorities are to my family, home, job and then, if I have time, to the boat. I personally saw lines that went 24 hours a day to pull out boats. I just don't know that I could take that time away from all else.

Yes, trailers are great. I would love to have one. Would have made my move to Miami much easier. Just not realistic for everyone.


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dlucier
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Response Posted - 12/13/2004 :  18:31:44  Show Profile
You know what?...A boat might be safer on it's side during a hurricane than up on stands.

Whaddya think?

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At Ease
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Response Posted - 12/13/2004 :  19:00:21  Show Profile
Reminds me of an airplane joke...how can you tell when you have made a gear up landing...it takes a lot of power to taxi.

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 12/13/2004 :  20:59:15  Show Profile
I thought it was funny Frank but Clambeach had already used the response I was thinking of.

Steve

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 12/13/2004 :  21:07:36  Show Profile
Or, there's always the built-in trailer/rv combo:


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austin72
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Response Posted - 12/14/2004 :  11:52:23  Show Profile
How many degrees of heel is that guy getting???

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 12/19/2004 :  12:32:55  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dlucier</i>
<br />You know what?...A boat might be safer on it's side during a hurricane than up on stands.
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There is a marina in Fiji, where the standard storm protection method is to dig a boat size hole with a backhoe on high ground above the anticipated level of the storm surge, then drop the boat into the hole with a crane or travel lift. The hole is dug deep enough that the ground level is about at the boat's normal waterline, and the gap between the hull and edges of the hole is partially filled with car tires. This method is much more stable than placing a boat on jack stands in a hurricane force wind, although it offers no particular protection from damage by flying debris (there's probably no good way to protect a boat from that hazard if it's stored anywhere on the hard during a storm). It sounds to me like this would probably only work for full-keel or fin-keel sailboats, not wing keels, because debis could get into the gap between the hull and the wing, making it difficult to extract the boat from the hole after the storm. Here is an excerpt from the cruising report of "Hygeia of Halsa", a Hallberg-Rassy 42 out of the UK I think, that describes the process:
"They have great expertise at Vuda marina in storing boats to reduce the risk of damage to them should a cyclone develop - a distinct possibility in this area. Most boats stored ashore are kept in pits - there are a number of slit trenches round the yard, and one of the appropriate size and shape is selected: should the keel and hull not fit accurately, then the hole is tailored with pick-axe and shovel. The boat is then lowered into the pit where the keel rests on chocks on the floor of the pit, and the hull is supported on numerous old car-tyres. The whole process takes about 4 or 5 hours, and is done with great attention and care to detail. We were very impressed with their skill. So Hygeia is now snugged down in her nest and is only about 15 metres from her old friend Mazy, who is also in a hole in the ground, so she shouldn't be lonely."

I should also mention that a couple of other cruisier's reports I read about Vuda mentioned security and boat burglary problems at the facility, so while your boat might be safe from a storm there, it's best to not leave it unattended for any longer than you have to. I guess these kind of problems can happen to sailboats anywhere, but the temptation to commit a boat burglary must be especially bad in the third world, where a well-equipped cruising yacht can represent a full year's income for the average family just in the easily-removed small items of gear like binoculars and handheld VHF radios.

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