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Oscar
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Initially Posted - 12/17/2004 :  10:15:04  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
Being a pilot and a boater the rules of the road come to me in differrent forms, I was unable to figure out the stand-on and give-way vessel here......



Oscar
C42 # 76 "Lady Kay" (Ex. C250 WB #618 )
Georgetown MD/Fort Lauderdale FL

"Hindsight is 20/20, if I knew then what I know now, I would now be living on a small wooden sailboat, making a few bucks here and there playing a guitar and singing songs in bars."
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 12/17/2004 :  10:18:06  Show Profile
Oscar, I think this one comes under the "Big Boat" rules...he who has the bigger boat has the R-O-W...!
Derek
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 12/17/2004 :  10:55:53  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
I can't tell where this is or what vessel is downbound, but its certainly a meeting situation in a narrow channel! And that plane is certainly "restricted in ability to maneuver" {showing the day shapes?)

Tug should be sounding the danger signal and backing down if necessary to avoid collision!
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/17/2004 :  12:12:08  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Derek Crawford</i>
<br />Oscar, I think this one comes under the "Big Boat" rules...he who has the bigger boat has the R-O-W...!
Derek
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

I believe that's also referred to as the 2nd law of Tonnage
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 12/17/2004 :  14:19:10  Show Profile
Looking more closely at the pic, I think they are both "parked".
There's no smoke from the tug's stack and no disturbed water close to it's stern, indicating no engine running.
Derek
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 12/17/2004 :  14:19:16  Show Profile
Speaking of [url="http://www.sailnet.com/collections/learningtosail/rules/"]Rules of the Road[/url], I found this yesterday.
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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 12/17/2004 :  15:49:59  Show Profile
<font color="blue">Speaking of Rules of the Road, I found this yesterday. - Don</font id="blue">

Cool website!

Thanks, Don.
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Jeff McK
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Response Posted - 12/17/2004 :  16:29:26  Show Profile
It's going to take a looooooong time to get back to the terminal.

Definitely a Right of Weight situation.
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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 12/17/2004 :  16:58:53  Show Profile
Jeff - that's hilarious! I'm ROFLMDFHO.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 12/17/2004 :  22:34:31  Show Profile
Colregs clearly states: "Vessel looking up is give-way vessel. Vessel looking down proceeds as vessel pleases." This situation looks clear.

Oscar--did you post this on the C-42 forum?
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Oscar
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Response Posted - 12/18/2004 :  04:03:16  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Oscar--did you post this on the C-42 forum?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

At this point the "moderator" no longer returns my e-mails. When I posted in the following thread:

http://p209.ezboard.com/fcatalina42discussionforumfrm2.showMessage?topicID=563.topic

That the second and third post were off topic I was yanked....

Oscar
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 12/18/2004 :  08:27:45  Show Profile
OK guys... If he's referring to games being played by "us" (again), let's cut it out. We have some standards, and they have some standards. They can sort theirs out without "help" from us.
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