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Sea Trac
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Initially Posted - 02/05/2005 :  20:11:16  Show Profile
This time it appears to have come across the Symantec update server, as opposed to the McAfee update server from before. I think I'm in the market for a G4!

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Waterboy
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Response Posted - 02/05/2005 :  20:50:29  Show Profile  Visit Waterboy's Homepage
In defiance of the Microsoft juggernaut, I'm working on getting a Linux box up and running, but the hitches I'm running into tempt to say 'ohh just spend more $$$ and get a fresh XP system'

'got my Mom a Mac this summer ... I knew the keyboard would be a little different, but jeez ... this thing was truely arcane ... funny little symbols all over the place, and what appeared on the screen did NOT correspond with the keyboard. They'd mistakenley included a euro KB - took me three days to figure that one out.

*bonk* head on keyboard to continue...

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 02/05/2005 :  21:52:28  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
JB... a few months ago, I got a couple of emails from semantec saying that the sample of virus that my computer had sent them was infected and that to clear the virus I needed to open the attached file.... well, not having semnatec virus software... I didn't open the attachment and felt that it was an attemp to infect.

They did get me however after hacking into my computer, getting a name from my email list and disguising mail from my daughter in law to open an attachment from her. It wasn't a big shake to clear it out except the virus program kept having to deal with it every time I rebooted...finally, I found the answer was to turn off the restore feature so that the the virus would get cleared from a restore point file that gets rewritten or some such.

Good luck... and btw, cox cable changed me over to an upgraded ISP plan recently and the new system filters junk mail and virus stuff really well... I was getting two or three virus infected email atempts a month and haven't had one since the change.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/05/2005 :  23:47:32  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Antares</i>
<br /> I think I'm in the market for a G4!
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You will never go back! In my nineteen years of using Apple computers, and my intimacy with the Apple international scene for some of those years, I have never seen nor heard of anyone having a destructive virus on an Apple OS. We use Macafee and Symantec products but I often wonder why.

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Lee T
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Response Posted - 02/06/2005 :  06:02:40  Show Profile
A brief cauton that cutting out 100% of spam email can also cause some "desired" email to be sent to the junk email folder as well. I try to take a look at the "bulk" or "junk email" folder once a week or thereabouts to see if any real emails have been sent there - use some disposable time to go thru this, like after you come home after a few beers or whatever.

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Lee

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 02/06/2005 :  06:50:31  Show Profile
I agree with Frank. I've used Apples for years, beginning with the IIc, which in 1985 was cheaper and easier to use and more flexible than the IBM PC. When I moved to my current appointment four years ago, I inherited a Dell. I used it faithfully for a year, and hated every minute of it. As the Dell grew slower and slower, one day I decided I'd had enough and bought a new Powerbook G4. I effortlessly trade files with my secretary who uses a new Dell and with my colleagues using Microsquish machines. When the tech consultant at our central office sends out weekly warnings to all the field offices about the latest virus, or the new expensive software upgrades needed, I reply "Gee, I don't have that problem." The only thing the Mac can't do is Access, the awful MS database. If you absolutely have to use Access, you're stuck. (Or, obviously, some dedicated program designed for Windows only) But Safari is infinitely better than Explorer, Mail is way better than Outlook, and Power Point and Word run at least as well on the Mac as on a PC. And when you really compare oranges to oranges, the Mac is very cost competitive.

One caution in making the switch: PC users at first find the Mac confusing, because it's so much more intuitive to use. PC users are so used to thinking in convoluted ways to use the PC (e.g., click on Start to turn the computer off) it takes a while for them to "dumb down" enough to use the Mac. But Frank is right -- as soon as you relax and start doing what comes naturally, you'll never go back.

Brooke

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 02/06/2005 :  08:30:12  Show Profile
JB, may I recommend Computer Associates suite of AV, firewall and spyware protection software. http://www.ca.com/
I've been using their products for many years. They've never let me down.

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Charlie Vick
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Response Posted - 02/06/2005 :  11:44:23  Show Profile
Go for the G5 with OSX.
We have OSX on all our G5's at work, which are primarly used for design and graphics (which blow pc's out of the water) and its almost like having to learn a whole new OS. If you get an earlier OS you'll have to go through learning X if you decide to upgrade.
If you're going Mac you might as well go all the way.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/06/2005 :  14:22:09  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
easier than ever; [url="http://www.apple.com/macmini/"]The new Mac Mini[/url]

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 02/06/2005 :  14:35:23  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com</i>
<br />easier than ever; [url="http://www.apple.com/macmini/"]The new Mac Mini[/url]<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Now that's sweet! BTW, I've been attacked a dozen times already today. Thankfully, Norton has successfully blocked today's activity. I've decided that an online, multimedia joke about PMS sent from a friend is the most likely culprit for my most recent knock down.

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