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Mug race in Jacksonville May 7!!!!!!!

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atgep
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Initially Posted - 02/06/2005 : 22:10:54

With the eyes of the world on Jax this week, I recieved the race notice for the Mug race. If nobody noticed, we have one heck of a river to sail on here. We should have enough 25's to have our own class. It is a 40 mile one way race or cruise (your choice). I did it last year and had an awesome ride of 35 miles of 15-20 kts dead downwind. The last 5 miles were spent beating in winds ranging from calm to gale force.
It would be great to see some of you on the river. If anyone is interested, I would be happy to help with trailer storage and local logistical issues.

So, break all those icicles, and come on down for a little cruise on the river.
http://www.rudderclub.com/
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frog0911
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Response Posted - 02/06/2005 : 23:15:42

I second the motion, however I think gale force maybe a understatement since I personnelly made two unplanned 360's at heel angles I would never put PennyII at on purpose.
Tom is correct about having a great time. The last few years the turn out for sail boats entered has been around 300. So come on down and have some post Superbowl fun.

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 02/07/2005 : 07:08:49

If the weather is anything like Super Sunday yesterday it will be a fantastic time. I went out at noon and did 14 miles down to the Buckman Bridge and back. Started out with reefed main and jib one a single starboard tack to the west back and then rounded Manderin Pt. Then the wind veered a little and stopped gusting so much and two more tacks had me to the bridge. Then wing and wing back south to round Manderin Pt. again and a broad reach home like riding a stallion. What a super sailing day. As Tom mentioned anyone needing help just send email and I will be glad to assist anyway I can.

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Response Posted - 02/07/2005 : 21:42:30

Tom,
Logistical issues...I have 25' Catalina at Epping and was thinking of doing this cruise... but do not have a trailer etc. Is motoring up river realistic? and to where? i.e. is there berthing etc. at the starting point?

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Response Posted - 02/07/2005 : 22:03:28

Is Epping on the west coast? I do not know of a way across except through the big lake. The St Johns only goes down to the Lake George area. You can sail anything in the race. Do you know anyone with a small daysailer? The race starts in Palatka and finishes at 1-295 in Jax. There are hotels in Palatka. You can also tie up the Holiday inn dock at no charge.
Let me know if you need any more info.

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Response Posted - 02/07/2005 : 22:16:15

Tom,
Epping is in Jax - on the San Marco side (Epping Frest Yacht Club)
I have a Johnson 9.9 Sailmaster on my C25 - with a 6 gallon tank - am I out of my mind to think that I could motor up to Palatka?

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Response Posted - 02/08/2005 : 07:13:25

I stand corrected. You are should have no problem motoring to Palatka. I was under power all the way last year and emptied my 6gal tank right before Palatka. I put in the extra 2 gal and finished the trip. In fact, I never got any more fuel. You might want to carry an extra 5 gal. I have the same engine.

I went down on Fri last year. We spent the night on the boat which worked out great as it was 60 deg outside. This year, I am heading down to Green cove on Thurs for the legendary "halfway there party". Then the push on Fri is an easy trip.

The sight in Palatka is one to behold as there are hundreds of boats tied up and rafted together.

Tom.

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Response Posted - 02/09/2005 : 20:55:55

Tom, how about some pictures from last year so all can get an idea of the mass scramble.

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 02/09/2005 : 21:36:59

I'm confused. The messaage heading reads "May 7". But the web site info reads "May 1" of 2004? I know last years was the 50th year. It would be a shame to miss it by a week.

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Response Posted - 02/09/2005 : 23:42:07

Ben,
The race is on the 7th. The website has not been updated in a year. If you look at the 2005 schedule, it shows the right date. I have asked the question about the Cats racing as a class. We will see.

I am heading down on Thurs with the wife and kids. Fri night the wife and kids go home and the race crew(ballast)arrives. The sure saved my butt last year as I thought the boat was going over!

Here are some of the pics from last year.

http://www.snapfish.com/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=20124944/t_=15388664
Tom.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 02/10/2005 : 08:29:54

Tom, clicked on the link, but all I got was the homepage of Snapfish and a request for ID and password. Whats up?

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atgep
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Response Posted - 02/10/2005 : 12:48:09

Here are the updated pictures!

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/atgep/mugrace/mugrace.htm

Pretty cool to be at the Mug with a 40 footer and a Hobie16. What a great race.

Here is a letter recieved from the rudder club regarding a cat 25 class.

Hi Tom,

That is the intent. However the problem lies in actually having a class. What has been happening has been 4 catalina 25's with non-spinnaker and 2 catalina 25's with spinnaker get registered. That is actually 6 catalina 25's, but 2 have a big difference, namely spinnakers. Than after the race, the committee gets notified that one of the catalina's did not really use their spinnaker so they want to move back to non-spinnaker and then there will be a class. This does not work in fairness to the other racers.

It is the Clubs desire for as many classes as possible. How boats are registering is the real problem. If you make a point to work with the race committee at registration and cross check with them the catalina 25's are registering correctly, then we can get a class.

In any event the desire from the club is for the Class. so the Club will work with you.
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Rich

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Sounds like we need to get together and register with the same information. I will forgo the Spinnaker this year if it puts us together.

If adamb joins us we almost have the class made. Any other takers? If anyone is worried about "racing" look at it as a 2-3 day cruise with trophies awarded at the end. It only has to be as stressfull as you want it to be.

Tom.

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 02/10/2005 : 20:44:37

What about the difference between 25s & 250s?

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atgep
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Response Posted - 02/10/2005 : 22:18:38

The handicap was the same for 25/250. The differance was between tall/short rig,spin/non spin. We could talk to the R/C to set up any other guidelines to fine tune the "class" . It would be great to have a few out of towners here as well. Even though we are in a "class", we still compete within the division, ie cruiser, non spin.

As for the boat speed differances.

The light air favors the 250. Heavy air, the 25.

Skipper skills can beat either.

The race course covers every heading but South.

I managed to hang with a Ranger 29 and some other purpose built race boat for a good 20 miles. They were all flying Symetrical spins with poles and I had my "cruising chute"

Not too bad for an old Catalina.

Tom.

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Response Posted - 02/10/2005 : 23:39:49

Tom, Ben has a point about the 25/250. Even though the time they give the 250 is the same, like the association nationals, they consider them two different classes. I do know that big chute you had made a difference even in light air as you zipped past me with my little 135. The most important thing is all have a great time and you are correct in that it is more of a racing cruise for all but the CATs who fly past everybody.

PS. The pictures were great.

Edited by - frog0911 on 02/10/2005 23:41:21

Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 02/11/2005 : 08:07:56

Great pictures! Where did you come up with the Don't Tread On Me flag?

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