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pwhallon
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Initially Posted - 02/07/2005 : 10:48:19

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?currency=USD& units=Feet& checked_boats=1291762& slim=quick&

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 02/07/2005 : 11:51:45

I wouldn't take that boat if you GAVE me $7000.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/07/2005 : 12:04:36

The only way I would buy that boat would be if I were going to get it with a chainsaw and a dump-truck. You might be able to make a profit parting it out but it seems questionable.

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At Ease
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Response Posted - 02/07/2005 : 13:21:10

They are confused, it's a C30, not a C320.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 02/07/2005 : 18:23:19

Hull integrity is compromised.....parts only.

Oscar
C42 # 76 "Lady Kay" (Ex. C250 WB #618 )
Georgetown MD/Fort Lauderdale FL

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 02/08/2005 : 08:25:51

Not even the Sea Scouts would want, as a donation, a boat that badly damaged. The total cost of replacing and repairing all the damage to hull, interior accommodations, and rigging would probably far exceed the $16,000~$23,000 that is the going price for Catalina 30's in average condition of the 1979-1983 age bracket in the SF Bay Area.

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jwilliams
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Response Posted - 02/08/2005 : 13:09:00

There was a guy next to me in the marina that had a C30 ('80). I am glad it was kicked out, because I was hungering to offer him $2500 for it. (Kirsten would have divorced me.)

It had been lived in and ignored. Engine did not run. Rigging was there but original.

Still, it was a C30.

Truely, it would have cost me at least $15K+ and a year of effort to get it sailable.

Get thee away, Satan!

Jim Williams
Hey Jude C25fk 2958
SF Bay

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/08/2005 : 16:56:15

The C-30 is the largest fleet at our club with 15 boats. People keep asking me when, I just tell them my 82 C-25 isn't paid for yet. I really like our size for a boat that spends half the year on the hard.

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dave holtgrave
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Response Posted - 02/09/2005 : 10:03:11

boy
i've toyed with this question for all my life.
why not buy a used 30.
then i look at my yearly fee.
$300 for 6 months
$185 inside winter storage
bring it home to work on projects
no bottom paint
no wear and tear from sitting in the water
if i want to sail by myself, so be it
no inboard to have someone to fix
so i can't stand straight up in it, it takes a 35 footer to stand in the main cabin

wow! i sure do like my 25

dave holtgrave
5722 sk/tr
hard and dry near carlyle lake in southern illinois

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 02/09/2005 : 11:20:48

I too have reassessed the the annual cost of maintaining a C30. I am now looking at the C28. It's trailerable so I can still store it in my yard, I can single hand it, and, except for the inboard engine, would cost about the same to maintain as my C25. The MK II is nicely appointed and equipped for cruising on Lake Superior. I'm almost sold.

Al
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 02/09/2005 : 11:25:12

My buddy David with his C30 has spent about $5000 on his inboard diesel and its still not running right (he got towed in recently).

Gotta love the simple C25. There's no motor problem $2000 won't fix (and thats for a complete repower). Spend 1/2 the money and sail twice as much.

Now, if you have a family of 4 and want to spend every weekend anchored out there's no question, get the C30.

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 02/11/2005 : 10:35:35

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by JimB517
 ...C30 has spent about $5000 on his inboard diesel and its still not running right...simple C25. There's no motor problem $2000 won't fix (and thats for a complete repower.
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Exactly what I'm thinking. In the summer of 2003, I found out about a Catalina 25 Mk. IV for sale right here in Sacramento. It was sitting in a slip at our city marina (Miller Park) and the asking price was pretty good, about $8500. However, it turned out to be an inboard diesel, which became obvious the moment we arrived at the marina to check out the boat and got a look at the transom. It also had a marine head instead of a Porta Pottie, which was a problem as Folsom Lake had no pump-out at that time. Anyway, after thinking it over for a few days, I decided to pass, for all the same reasons Jim says in his post. Even the small 9 hp diesel in the Cat 25 costs 3 to 4 times as much to replace as a 9.9 hp Honda or Yamaha outboard, and it's much harder to do routine maintenance like oil changes on the inboard since it's wedged in under the cockpit. When you're as big as I am, 6'-2" and 300#, crawling into the "torpedo tube" (quarterberth), isn't something you look forward to doing even just to sleep, let alone to work on a greasy diesel engine.
I have to say that one of the really nice aspects of the Catalina 30 is that the placement of the engine and shaft seal make this one of the best sailboats ever built for easiness of doing engine repairs and maintenance. Just lift off the galley cabinet that's covering it, and there's the engine, right in the middle of the cabin with plenty of room all around it for access. Too bad the Cat 25 inboard diesel isn't built that way, but if it was, there'd be practically no room in the cabin to move around; it's small enough as is without stuffing an engine in there too. If I ever decide to move to a bigger, non-trailerable boat, it'll probably be a Cat 30. I figure that's about the largest boat I could single-hand in relative safety and comfort.
Meanwhile, I am quite content with my C-25 wing. It's trailerable, so I can go anywhere I might want to, like the San Juans, Channel Islands, or maybe even Lake Cheney for the Nationals this summer. Since the keel is lead instead of cast iron, I can move the boat to a salt water marina if I want to. And I can put the boat into my own back yard at no cost if I should have a need to take her out of service for a while. Doing extensive projects on a boat is a lot nicer when the boat's at home, where I've got all my tools. I hate to work on the boat out at Folsom Lake. It seems like I am always discovering that I need some tool that I didn't bring, or I need a bolt or screw that I don't have one that size in the boat's spare parts box, or I need to do something requiring my drill press or bench grinder, so that job has to get postponed to another weekend.
I am heading out to the lake later today, for this year's first "splash"! The lake has come back up almost 25' and the marina is now open again for the first time since last July when they had to shut down due to low water. The forecast says there won't be any wind to speak of today. but I will have fun just being on the boat in the water. I'll putt around with the new Yamaha and see if the new 9" pitch prop I put on last weekend works better than the 5" pitch prop that the motor came with. The 5" prop was awfully "slow", and required the motor to be revved to almost full throttle to get 5.5 knots of boat speed. Another nice thing about taking the boat out in February is that I will have the lake practically to myself, there will be only a handful of other boats on the water, mostly die-hard bass fisherman, and they spend most of their time in the river channels that lead out the lake, working the backwater areas where the fish are concentrated. The forecast for today is mostly cloudy, high about 60ºF (lake temp 48ºF), winds calm in the morning, but shifting to a southeast flow to 10 mph in the afternoon and early evening (maybe).

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dave holtgrave
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Response Posted - 02/11/2005 : 15:06:39

larry
you luckyt guy.
hope you have a great day.

i"m sitting in my office in southern illinois and it's to top 50 today.
tomorrow it could get to 60.

the birds are flocking north and migratory birds are following.
can't believe how mils the winter has been.

so far.

hope you have a great time
dave holtgrave
5722 sk/tr
hard and dry in southern illinois

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