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JimB517
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Initially Posted - 02/15/2005 : 20:24:35

Hey, I've been looking at our membership database. We have people from all over the world. US, Canada, Europe, Austrailia. Lets become the International Association.

How would you like to come home from the Kansas Worlds crowned "Catalina 25 World Champion".

Has a nice ring to it. I just might have to make a go at it.

I'm 47 years old and have a shot at becoming "World Champion" in a sport. How many of us have a shot at that in any other single endeavor?????

Indiscipline 1978 FK SR #398

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 02/15/2005 : 20:54:20

Shucks Jim, you're just a youngster! I just turned 70 and also have a shot at it!

Derek

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bren737
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Response Posted - 02/15/2005 : 21:37:15

Derek,

Happy birthday

! I had no idea you were even CLOSE to 70! You certainly don't show it! Must be all that fresh lake air.

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 02/15/2005 : 21:48:40

Jim,

As you correctly identified, we are truly an International Association and, as such, should put a vote to the members to change name of the association to reflect the same.

Regarding a World Championship however, I think it would be incredibly unfair to our members that hail from other than continental U.S. waters; including our brethren in U.S. territorial waters. Nice try, though. ;-)

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coach
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Response Posted - 02/15/2005 : 22:16:13

Hey! If I can haul my boat from northern Indiana to Kansas...by God then someone from Europe can haul their boat over to Kansas!!!!!

If we have world wide members, it should be the world championships. Thats my vote!

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 02/15/2005 : 23:12:24

Isn't the distance from Southern California to Kansas about the same as from Europe to Kansas? Hauling my wing / tall to Kansas makes me think I will get real serious about winning this World Championship race. Jim and I were out on the Pacific talking about this last Sunday and I knew he'd bring this up on the forum sooner or later. Nationals? Worlds? I plan on being first off the line at the start and having all the rest looking at my stern all weekend.....
Of course, it's all going to be fun no matter what it is called and who wins.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 02/15/2005 : 23:37:23

International designation might result in a higher membership...I've seen lots of Catalinas in Canadian marinas.
I sent in my membership cheque because I want to do what I can to ensure that this forum has the means to continue.
And, like Jim, I'm 47 and would like to take a run at the World Title. However...it might be kind of fun to take the National championship across the border

Is there a trophy...and is it bolted to the trophy case like the Americas Cup was?

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 02/15/2005 : 23:47:41

Heck, if baseball can boast of a "World Series" when there is really only one country competing, then we can sure call our Nationals a "World Event"!

Derek

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Earl Landers
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Response Posted - 02/16/2005 : 10:18:24

I suspect that we have just as many extra-national boats as do the "International Catalina 30 Association", the "Catalina 320 International Association", the "Catalina 34 International Association", and the "C36 International Association". "International C25 Champion" is a pretty cool title

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Jeff McK
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Response Posted - 02/16/2005 : 10:44:01

Stampeder,

If there isn't one, maybe we can use the Stanley Cup until they make one. It's not being used for anything this year.

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 02/16/2005 : 12:29:42

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by gnorgan
 Nationals? Worlds? I plan on being first off the line at the start and having all the rest looking at my stern all weekend.....<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Gary, I recall you looking at Indiscipline's stern a good part of the day off Mision Bay...

Of course, some of that was when you followed us in after the fire.

Jim: To be fair, I guess the next Worlds should be in Geneva, or maybe Perth...

BTW, the J24 Worlds in Darien (my hometown till last week) had 75 boats from 15+ countries around the world.

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 02/16/2005 : 13:16:59

Maybe if we asked real nice, the good witch of the West would get us all to Kansas.

I don't know why we shouldn't be an international organization. Perhaps a vote of the membership would settle the matter.

Al
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familysailor
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Response Posted - 02/16/2005 : 13:38:40

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by gnorgan
 Isn't the distance from Southern California to Kansas about the same as from Europe to Kansas?
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What size of tow vehicle you would need to tow your C-25 from Europe to Kansas?

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 02/16/2005 : 14:52:04

It's called a C-141 or C-5A. Could get together and possibly get a group rate round trip landing at McConnell AFB (if still open) right in downtown Wichita.

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coach
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Response Posted - 02/16/2005 : 16:07:33

If I can get my trailer ready, I'll be bringing my led sled!

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/16/2005 : 16:09:34

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by familysailor
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by gnorgan
 Isn't the distance from Southern California to Kansas about the same as from Europe to Kansas?
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What size of tow vehicle you would need to tow your C-25 from Europe to Kansas?

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 02/16/2005 : 16:11:53

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by frog0911
 It's called a C-141 or C-5A. Could get together and possibly get a group rate round trip landing at McConnell AFB (if still open) right in downtown Wichita.
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Holy Crap! What have you heard? McConnell will be here for ever! The Boeing Military skunkworks is there, they share runways.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 02/16/2005 : 17:11:45

Shouldn't we also extend our scope, reach, and influence beyond the "International" classification to include some of the outer planets too?

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 02/16/2005 : 17:31:55

Every single member is on planet Earth. To my knowledge, no Catalina 25/250 has been exported off planet.

Come on, I'm serious. I think as a group we could get a lot more attention as the International Association and hosting the C25/250 Worlds. We have only 1 member in Europe. Many Canadian boats, however.

I'm also open to entertaining offers from Canadian clubs for coming International Regattas.

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Dkn420
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Response Posted - 02/16/2005 : 19:17:53

International has my vote...so does a World Championship...with the current format it will always be more difficult for some to get to the races than others...and those without trailers might never get a chance, unless they just come to crew...Dan #727

Or, Jerry's idea could work

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 02/16/2005 : 19:53:01

It has been a long time since I flew into McConnell so I had no idea if it was still afloat after congress did their last closure diddy. I was stationed in Salina, smack in the middle of tornado alley, until they close it in 1965. I don't remember Lake Cheney being there back in those days. We did all our water activities on Lake Kanopolis and newly opened Manhattan Reservoir, now known as Milford Lake.

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 02/16/2005 : 21:29:30

Anyone remember reading about a ship that transports boats like a dry dock? I saw it somewhere that this vessel would float your boat on then pump out the water. You get to stay aboard your own vessel as it is tranported through the Panama Canal. Maybe this would work for a passage across The Pond too!

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coach
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Response Posted - 02/17/2005 : 00:23:37

I like the world championships idea. We are international, so it makes sense.

The one thing that I think would be nice. Not only do the winners receive the trophy for the
year and a flag. But if someone could get in contact with a ring making such as Balfour or somebody to design a championship ring. I am not talking a 10k Super Bowl type kind of ring. But a nice size ring that folks either winning or placing in the championships would have the option to purchase.

They will design a ring for a group and they make them as they are ordered. Someone could sport a beautiful world championship. Great conversation starter. You can buy rings like that designed by a company for anywhere from 200 to 500 bucks.

You set a blue stone for the champion of each class...red stone for 2nd place...green stone for 3rd place.

If you are going to be a world champion, you should have the world championship ring to show
the world your accomplishment.

They do it for the national horse shoe winners and other competitions..why not sailing?

What do ya'll think?

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 02/17/2005 : 03:52:52

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">If you are going to be a world champion, you should have the world championship ring to show the world your accomplishment.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Is this what you had in mind Coach?

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Dkn420
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Response Posted - 02/17/2005 : 12:31:05

Ben: Is that what you were looking for? http://www.yacht-transport.com/ I was looking at the site and they have a monthly transport from Florida to St. Thomas...didn't check the cost, but would be a way to get to the BVI from some crusing...Dan #727

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cathluk
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Response Posted - 02/17/2005 : 15:57:16

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Antares
 Jim,

As you correctly identified, we are truly an International Association and, as such, should put a vote to the members to change name of the association to reflect the same.

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Absolutely, we need to put it the a vote. Do we need to second that motion or something?

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