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Frank Hopper
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Pitcairn Island
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Initially Posted - 03/05/2005 : 19:03:03

The weather has been lousy this winter and I have only gotten on my boat a couple of times. Last night and this afternoon I was able to do some small stuff that went well and put me back in touch with Fellowship. It sure is nice to piddle on a boat.

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Dave Laux
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Response Posted - 03/05/2005 : 21:59:26

Our dog Jack thinks so too. He likes trailer boats. All those tires to send pee-mail on. Dave

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mmac
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 02:08:39

Frank,

Well done, everything looks great! Like you said sometime you gotta pick up those tools and get things done. Those are some good ideas to give a more homey touch to our cabins. I look forward to seeing more.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 09:08:53

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave Laux
 Our dog Jack thinks so too. He likes trailer boats. All those tires to send pee-mail on. Dave
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Pee-mail...too funny!

Frank,

On North Star the anchor locker is about the least most pleasant area in the boat. With respect to opening up the anchor locker to the interior, aren't you worried about introducing those things that live in the anchor locker into the interior of the boat?

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Frank Hopper
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Pitcairn Island
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 11:23:24

Dave,
I bought a new mandrel and hole saw for this project. I had never seen the "locking" mandrel before. It was a little strange in that you thread the saw down tight and then back it off until the lock plungers line up and then raise the plungers. It made for a little bit of a wobble in the saw but I think it still cut an accurate hole. Have you use this type of mandrel? (Did you notice my weep holes are lined up wrong? I drilled some new ones.)

Don,
I wish my sailing reality was the same as yours, your sailing experience is much broader than mine. I have yet to drop my anchor on this boat, I have anchored less than a dozen times ever. My anchor locker is always clean... dusty even. I do intend to put my rode in a water proof bag so the smell of rainy rope does not become an issue. I have a PROFOUND aversion to loosing ANY deck space on my boat. The location of the vent represents that as its driving factor. Most of us have had several boats and I think we would all agree that the reason our 25 footers are so commodious is there is almost no deck space. The 250 represents the design team's surrender to the inevitable and the side decks are gone completely. (A good idea on boats our size.)
This vent installation is actually the last piece of the refrigerator installation. I am VERY happy with the refrigerator and recommend it to anyone who has shore power. These little refrigerators use their walls as the heat sink so heat is generated one the two sides and the top. This heat has not overpowered anything but it seemed reasonable to let it out if I could. Since heat rises I feel there will be a positive flow out of the vent and if it turns out to be a mistake I will close it and hang a plastic plant from it.

Mike,
I am please with the old teak 3.5" disk boxes being used. During times of no boats I have actually smelled them just to remember the smell of my old boats. I often pick up teak items and smell them, just as I stop to listen to the slap of halyards on flag poles. It would have been a shame to just throw them away.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 13:18:21

Hey Frank
Do you have a Marinco deck vent to exhaust the warm air from your refrigerator?

I especially like your fancy toilet paper holder.

You are lucky to have a dock with electricity (I'm sure you are paying for it too)

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 14:46:10

Hi Frank,

'Really nice projects! I especially like the way you "recycled" the teak boxes.

For those of us who are looking for some easy, affordable teak upgrades, the tambour-door teak disk holders, VHS holders, etc. can be found on eBay for a song. I installed a large one above the shelf in the head ... it was cheap, holds a lot, easy to install, and looks good with just some teak oil on it ... this photo is a little cluttered, but you get the idea:

I bought a tiny brass clasp at a hobby store to keep the doors from sliding apart in rough seas ... you can just barely see it above the door pulls.

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Frank Hopper
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Pitcairn Island
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 18:30:49

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Gloss
 Hey Frank
Do you have a Marinco deck vent to exhaust the warm air from your refrigerator?

I especially like your fancy toilet paper holder.

You are lucky to have a dock with electricity (I'm sure you are paying for it too)
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I used a Beckson. We pay $400 a year for a slip with two fingers, power, and potable water. We have never put anything down that sink and I do not put any water in the holding tank. In fact I took the fill line off to get the little case back in the corner. The hand pump now serves as a TP holder.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 22:11:05

that's a deal on your slip. I'll bet the folks in Annapolis, or Newport are envious

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 22:25:02

I pay more than that per month and we have a waiting list.

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Mark Loyacano
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Response Posted - 03/06/2005 : 22:29:06

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Gloss
 that's a deal on your slip. I'll bet the folks in Annapolis, or Newport are envious
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Actually Frank, I've been to Annapolis and other nearby areas. I would gladly pay whatever Annapolis rates are just to be there instead of stinky, muddy 'ol Cheney.

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lcharlot
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Antigua and Barbuda
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Response Posted - 03/08/2005 : 08:32:29

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com
We pay $400 a year for a slip with two fingers, power, and potable water.
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Folsom Lake: $1200/year for a slip, or $700/year for dry storage, and no shore power or water in either facility

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Midpoint
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Response Posted - 03/08/2005 : 12:08:46

Gasparilla Marina, Placida Florida. $3948.00 per year -- Wet slip, shore power & water...

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Back-Into-Sailing
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Response Posted - 03/13/2005 : 23:39:23

I recently bought some of those teak boxes, but haven't figure out yet how to attach them. What did you do to secure them?

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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 03/14/2005 : 01:40:30

The varied monthly fees I paid the last 24 months or so.
Which included power and water.
Tahoe Keyes South Lake Tahoe......$550/month.
Crosswoods RV lot(on the hard)....$13/month.
Anacortes Washington..............$365/month.
Ballina Isle San Francisco Bay....$170/month Where I'm now a few months.
Then off to Princess Louisa Inlet in June for a month........
I started sailing Folsom Lake in the 60's in my El Toro #3874 and worked my way up to a C250 #719.
Anybody remember the Bull Ship race in San Francisco where you tried to sail across the bay and hoped the tide did not take you under the Golden Gate Bridge?
Well I guess I got carried away........
paulj#719

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Frank Hopper
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Pitcairn Island
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Response Posted - 03/14/2005 : 07:08:14

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Back-Into-Sailing
 I recently bought some of those teak boxes, but haven't figure out yet how to attach them. What did you do to secure them?

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You need to secure them from the other side of the bulkhead. Drill four holes in the box frame bottom. Make a template. Mark all four holes on the backside of the bulkhead. Drill one, screw it almost tight. Screw #2 line up second box hole and run the drill through again to ensure perfect alignment. Screw #2 tight. Tighten #1. Drill 3 and 4, put in screws.

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 03/14/2005 : 08:25:49

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by johnsonp
 
Tahoe Keyes South Lake Tahoe......$550/month.
Anacortes Washington..............$365/month.
Ballina Isle San Francisco Bay....$170/month
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Wow! I had heard that Tahoe Keys marina was pretty expensive, but $22/ft is ridiculous. Not even Pier 39 Marina in San Francisco - probably the most expensive marina in the Bay Area - charges that much. I'm also a little surprised that Anacortes is so expensive; Most SF Bay Area marinas are no more than $8/ft - Anacortes is $14.60/ft?!?

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kbq
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Response Posted - 03/14/2005 : 13:12:07

Paul -

The BullShip races still live on:

[url="http://www.latitude38.com/LectronicLat/2004/0404/April19/Apr19.html"]Latitude 38[/url] (scroll down)
[url="http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2005-10,GGLD:en&q=san+francisco+bullship+race"]google[/url]

Kevin
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250wk #751

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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 03/14/2005 : 15:42:35

Kevin
Thanks..........
Brings back memories.
Ya know it has been 40 years ago since I did that.
Hebord Smith from Lake Washington sailing club and I made three El
Toros on a measured jig. My son still has mine.
In those days we made all our own hardware from Aluminum plates.
Well enough of that....lets finish putting in 110 volts in the C250.
paulj #719

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tzk53s
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Response Posted - 03/17/2005 : 13:12:31

Slip prices. Has anyone ever thought of joining a Yacht Club? I am a member of one (Port Huron Yacht Club) here in Michigan. We are a very volunteer club. Dues: $500/year, slip: $800/ year. Includes power and water. Plus there is club racing among various classes, the clubhouse with well drinks (premium) at $1.50, beer $0.75. Also we are a staging point for the Port Huron to Mackinaw race every June. Anyway if there is a club in your area these usually have major benefits.

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MattL
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Response Posted - 03/17/2005 : 14:49:52

Our lake is pretty small
park Fee car $30
boat $30 i think
LYSA club dues $75 ($75 initiation fee)
yard storage $20/month
garage storage (cannoe etc.) $5/month
slip $80, $95 or $105 by width, mine is $95

For me that is $230/year. The sailing season goes from April/May till October or so. The slips have water and power, when working. The club house has an ice maker, a huge barbque pit, bathroom and kitchen.

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Frank Hopper
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Pitcairn Island
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Response Posted - 03/17/2005 : 16:26:57

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by tzk53s
 Slip prices. Has anyone ever thought of joining a Yacht Club?

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I have always assumed that most of us belong to yacht clubs. A little riff raff in an organization is good for diversity but I would hate to think it was a significant figure.

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 03/17/2005 : 23:01:30

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com

I have always assumed that most of us belong to yacht clubs. A little riff raff in an organization is good for diversity...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Since I don't belong to a yacht club, I'll volunteer to be the token riff raff.

-- Leon Sisson

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 03/18/2005 : 00:29:50

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Leon Sisson
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com

I have always assumed that most of us belong to yacht clubs. A little riff raff in an organization is good for diversity...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Since I don't belong to a yacht club, I'll volunteer to be the token riff raff.

-- Leon Sisson
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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 03/19/2005 : 06:30:25

Most of the Yacht clubs that I know of on my lake sell there slips like Condominiums. Very pricey to get in the door and then the associated fees that go with that arrangement.

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