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Frank Hopper
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Pitcairn Island
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Response Posted - 04/09/2005 :  19:10:14  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Actually this is my Kansas dream boat, Catalina 28 on a trailer! 8 feet! We don't need no stink'n 8 feet!


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Admiral

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Response Posted - 04/09/2005 :  20:52:04  Show Profile
Re the C270...it's 6,500 pounds excluding trailer, gear, fuel, etc...that's 3/4 ton truck territory.

As for the C25 vs C250 vs Capri 26 vs Seaward...follow the money. That's why any of them did, or did not do, anything.

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atgep
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Response Posted - 04/10/2005 :  09:40:16  Show Profile
It only has to be 8 feet at the wheels...Right?????

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 04/10/2005 :  23:46:33  Show Profile
Hey Frank. Check out the three (count 3) C28s for sail at:

www.catalinayachtsales.com

ThreeFootitis goes active.....

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 04/11/2005 :  08:38:56  Show Profile
We have a 270 in our club, named "Wing Tip", and the owner does in fact trailer it. The downside: there is no "standard" trailer design for the 270 since Catalina does not market it as a trailerable boat, so having a trailer built means a custom design = very expensive. Wing Tip's trailer cost around $26,000. Also, the 270 requires a "Wide Load" permit in most states.

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 04/12/2005 :  21:24:22  Show Profile
The C-270 is just 2" short of 10' beam--that is NOT a trailerable (except with wide-load escort vehicles in many states). I don't know about Canada. Nice boat, but I like the 28 better, and the 320 even better than that!

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 04/13/2005 :  07:43:36  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
There is two kinds of trailering. The one that everyone seems to envision is actually done the least. There are very few people trailering their boats across state lines or even within a state on a regular basis. The majority of trailers are used for annual haulouts and the beam requirements are of little concern in that situation. I cannot imagine being ticketed in Kansas for anything under 10 feet unless you planned your route poorly and forced the issue.

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 04/13/2005 :  08:34:29  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com</i>
<br />Actually this is my Kansas dream boat, Catalina 28 on a trailer!
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The C-28 (Mk. II) as shown on the factory web site is 10'-4' beam, and approx. 8600#. This is not a "trailerable boat" by any stretch of the imagination! You would need a wide load permit in every state, and escort vehicles ahead and behind in some states.

While I was looking at the factory site, I noticed that there is a new model of C-22, called the "sport". It appears to have the same underbody, rudder, and keel as the C-22 has always had, so as to comply with the one-design rule, but the deck and cabin is completely different; much smaller cabin and larger cockpit. In fact, is looks much more like a Capri 22 than a Catalina 22, at least in the tiny photos on the website. I wonder how many people are buying these? I am Captain of our local Catalina 22 fleet (Fleet #4), and no one in the club had even mentioned this boat, at least in my hearing. I looks like the weight has been trimmed to about 2200#, to match the performance potential of the '71-'73 boats that the dedicated C-22 racers mostly use.

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coach
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Response Posted - 04/13/2005 :  08:52:19  Show Profile

There are a few people that have Capri 26's at our club. They are beautiful boats and if they needed to start making another boat again...I have to agree with Frank that this is the boat that they should make.

As for sailing slower, not true. But taller mast and larger sails. 26s race in our group all the time and do just well.

As for trailering a 26, or even a 25. In our state(Indiana) 9 feet is max, my was measure Sunday at 9 feet 3 inches on the trailer. You must have a permit to travel with anything 9 feet or over. A wide load permit is a pain in the butt and you most likely would not get pulled over, but if you do the fine is quite high. Our friends with a 26 took theirs home in the dark of night to avoid getting caught.

If you travel thru Michigan, GET the permit. They will not hesitate to pull you over even if you look remotely close to the size to require a permit.


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andy
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Response Posted - 04/15/2005 :  16:02:16  Show Profile  Visit andy's Homepage
Ok here's what I want....
Catalina to build a copy of a J109 and price it at about $125M.
I don't care if it fits on a trailer or not! I can't pull my C25 (safely) with my 1/2 ton short bed GMC anyway.

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