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frants
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Initially Posted - 04/16/2005 : 20:27:59

Well, I am getting very close to launching -yeaaah- with a set of new sails on order from Ullman. Measuring the mast at 26'9" from top to the "groove" for the foot of the main sail(what is that called anyway) and the boom a total of 11' - so is that the standard rig?
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 04/16/2005 : 23:48:26

From the top of the mast to the deck is 30 feet for a Standard Rig, 32 for a tall rig. The booms are the same length, but the tall rig boom is a foot lower on the mast.

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rclift
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Response Posted - 04/17/2005 : 01:02:10

Sorry Jim,

Tall Rig mast is 30 ft. and Standard rig is 28. In addition the boom sits 1 ft. lower on the tall rig giving a total increase of 3ft of luff over the standard rig. luff 27.6 TR 24.6 SR. The mainsail foot on the c25 is 9.6 ft which leaves another 1+ foot boom left over where the sail foot stops. Measure the total length of your mast to make sure you have a standard rig before ordering. The way that I found out I had a tall rig (p.o. said it was standard) was when I ordered a new mast head only to find that it didn't fit. Besides being taller by 2 ft the tall rig mast is also thicker and heavier then the standard mast.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 04/17/2005 : 12:15:37

28, right, rclift has the correct figures

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frants
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Response Posted - 04/17/2005 : 14:21:21

Thank you for your reply gentlemen, I have just measured the mast again and the total length is 30' - so that's a tall rig huh? Will the genoa and jib I've ordered (for a standard rig) fit?
Frants

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 04/18/2005 : 13:09:34

Yes, the genoa and jib will fit, but they will be a couple of feet short. You could make a pendant so that they are hoisted a couple of feet above the deck. Or I think it would be better to return them and get tall rig sails.

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MattL
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Response Posted - 04/21/2005 : 16:03:31

Just a thought, I have a std. rig and know its boom is 1 foot higher than the tall rig. I hear of problems with the tall rig being un friendly to heads, biminies etc. could a person with a tall rig have a main made that is 1 foot shorter thereby raising the boom 1 foot giving room for the above mentioned items. Or would this be a sacralige?

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ilnadi
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Response Posted - 04/21/2005 : 16:34:22

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by MattL
 Just a thought, I have a std. rig and know its boom is 1 foot higher than the tall rig. I hear of problems with the tall rig being un friendly to heads, biminies etc. could a person with a tall rig have a main made that is 1 foot shorter thereby raising the boom 1 foot giving room for the above mentioned items. Or would this be a sacralige?
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Actually you'd raise the boom 3ft (remember that the mast is 2ft taller) above where it is on a TR nd 2ft above where it is on a SR. I'm a beginner but that may put the COE too high.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 04/21/2005 : 16:37:18

Sacrilege. Most people with a tall rig just get used to it, and warn their guests, who might be accustomed to a higher boom. If you want to raise the boom, the better way to do it is to have your sailmaker put a flattening reef or a short reef in the sail. That way the sail is full sized, but you can raise the boom a foot if you want to cruise, and be more relaxed about it.

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ilnadi
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Response Posted - 04/22/2005 : 10:53:47

Should have done the flattening reef when the main was at the sail shop. Anyway, we installed a bimini over the front part of the cockpit, that pretty much defines a ceiling. So the first thing you hit is the boom tang henging behind the bimini.

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John J.
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Response Posted - 04/24/2005 : 11:19:36

Actually I think that's the arrangement I have on my boat -- That is a tall rig mast with a standard sail. The mast is 30', ( I measured it ).When I hoist the main all the way, the goosenck ends up above the slot, not below it. What I need to do is measure the luff of the main. Anybody know what that measurement should be? I'm 6'3", so this seems to be a good set-up for me.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/24/2005 : 13:39:47

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by John J.
 ...What I need to do is measure the luff of the main. Anybody know what that measurement should be?...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Tall Rig - 27' 8"

Standard Rig - 24' 8"

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