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joegeiger
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Initially Posted - 05/23/2005 : 16:53:51

I replaced the woven wood door with a curtain to provide some privacy in the head area but have not had much luck keeping it up. If I use a tight string it droops. If I use a twist or spring curtain rod between the compression post and the edge of the bulkhead it comes down when I bump my head into it. Has anyone else added a curtain here and what did you use to hang it?

Thanks in advance,

Joe

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 05/23/2005 : 17:25:25

... Has anyone else added a curtain here and what did you use to hang it? - Joe

Hi Joe,

When I bought my boat there was nothing left of the old partitions. I sewed a curtain to span the bulkhead between the main cabin and the head, and also one for the bulkhead between the V-berth and the head. I used a track and hangars that I bought at an RV supply store. The track is plastic, and it looks kinda' like an inverted "U" ('looks like this: []) ... the hangars are T-shaped, and they fit into the "U" track ... 'hope that makes sense.

BTW, both tracks are mounted to pieces of teak that I shaped to conform to the curvature of the ceiling ... the bottom of each teak piece (where the tracks are mounted) is flat.

I did a quick search for a photo of my installation, but I haven't found one yet ... I'll keep looking.

'Hope that helps ... good luck with your project!

Edit: Well, I finally found a photo that shows the installation ... 'sorta ... the only one I could find happens to be a photo I took after decortating the boat to celebrate my sister's birthday. Here it is:

Edited by - Buzz Maring on 05/23/2005 17:34:31

Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 05/23/2005 : 18:50:57

Joe,<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">If I use a tight string it droops. ... Has anyone else added a curtain here and what did you use to hang it?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I use two festive nautical theme beach towels for head curtains. I sewed a curtain rod tunnel in the top edge of each, large enough to keep the bottom of the towel/curtain from touching the sole.

I use light line for a curatin rod. Here's how I get it tight. I got four heavy duty stainless steel cup hooks ore screw eyes w/approx. #10 wood screw threads. I used these to replace the upper, outer most bulkhead screws into the ridge of the fiberglass headliner. (Stainless steel trim washers keep the hooks or eyes from digging into the bulkheads.) Between the hooks or screw-eyes I stretched doubled 1/8" or so braided nylon line. Try to picture this. I tied the line to one hook. I ran it through the other hook, and back to the first hook again. I tied the line off to the first hook using a trucker's hitch. That gave me a total tension ratio of 6:1 minus friction. They don't sag!

And as a bonus, if you ever need a spare towel or two aboard, there they are!

-- Leon Sisson

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Doug
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Response Posted - 05/23/2005 : 19:10:57

I use a Soviet era naval flag hanging from a couple of hooks. Drops a bit but works for me

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George Beck
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Response Posted - 05/23/2005 : 19:17:09

Joe, you might try to contact CATALINA DIRECT for the privacy door at the head area. I have all my boat info on my boat or I would check their catalogue for ya. If you dont know of CATALINA DIRECT let me know and I will foreward info. I would bet that they have replacements.

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Dave Laux
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Response Posted - 05/23/2005 : 19:48:39

We use a curtain with snaps. Snap it across the opening, snap it back to store in the open position. A couple of snaps half way down for windy days. Threre or four snaps on the mast post side since they stay hooked up. Dave

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Cloudveil
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Response Posted - 05/23/2005 : 20:00:32

Sailrite (www.sailrite.com) has slick track and hangers in their
catalog (page 88). The hangers may be sewn directly to the
curtain fabric. Good luck! - John

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/24/2005 : 08:05:06

Buzz - What size teak cabinet door do you have in the fore-peak? It looks great.

Duane

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 05/24/2005 : 08:20:45

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Duane Wolff
 Buzz - What size teak cabinet door do you have in the fore-peak? It looks great. Duane<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Hi Duane,

Thanks! 'Sorry, I don't recall the dimensions ... I can measure it for you this weekend if you'd like ... let me know.

I bought the door & frame on eBay, and I just can't remember the dimensions, or what I paid for it. It sure makes it easier to get to the storage area underneath the bed.

edit: Duane ... I just found the fiberglass cutout in my garage ... the hole for the door was 12 1/2" x 12 1/2" ... 'hope that helps.

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GeorgeB
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Response Posted - 05/24/2005 : 10:53:55

Joe,

The simple solution that we used was a piece of spring, like you might find on an old screen door. We streched it beetween to hooks. Ran the the spring through the hem in the curtain. words great.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/24/2005 : 11:05:58

Buzz there's a 15 inch (14 inch cutout) for sale on ebay right now. I can't tell by your photo, would the extra few inches fit?

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 05/24/2005 : 11:48:01

Buzz there's a 15 inch (14 inch cutout) for sale on ebay right now. I can't tell by your photo, would the extra few inches fit? - Duane

Hi Duane,

I think it would fit, unless the frame is significantly wider than the one I installed. I sure don't want to give you a bum steer, but I know there is some "slop" in there ... the piece I cut out was actually a 13 3/4" x 13 3/4" cut, because I cut outside my traced mark.

As best I recall, there is still about an inch of margin on the left and right sides of the frame ... 'sure hope I'm right about that ... I zoomed in on my photo, and it sure looks that way.

How soon does that eBay auction close? I might have time to dig into my eBay files to see if I kept a record of the dimensions and what I paid for it. I can't do it right now though ... I've got both hands full and my pants coming down.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/24/2005 : 13:23:13

The auction closes in 4 days, but there is a very reasonable buy it now price

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 05/24/2005 : 21:34:25

'Sorry Duane ... I've looked everywhere, and I can't find the eBay record for that teak door.

Maybe someone here can get to their boat quicker than I can get to mine ... they could measure the width of that panel for you so you'd know how much space you've got to work with.

FWIW, the carpet template that we pass around from time to time shows that dimension as 18". Based on the size of the hole I cut, plus the way my photo looks when I zoom in, plus the carpet dimension, I'd say the door you're looking at will likely fit ... 'your call!

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/25/2005 : 09:23:32

I bought it Buzz -- I think if need be, I can always slice about 1/2" off the sides of the frame and still be okay. I'll let you know how it goes - maybe I'll even take some pictures this time

Next step is to take the left over Mahagony that I used to replace the table and build a bifold hinged door for the head. I noticed you keep the center cushion out of the forepeak, I like that idea. I think I'm going to follow suit.

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 05/25/2005 : 09:37:01

I bought it Buzz -- I think if need be, I can always slice about 1/2" off the sides of the frame and still be okay. I'll let you know how it goes - maybe I'll even take some pictures this time - Duane

Good! I'll be shocked if it doesn't fit ... I really don't think you'll have to trim it. Let us know how it goes ... good luck!

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joegeiger
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Response Posted - 05/25/2005 : 11:53:29

Thanks for all your suggestions. I have seen a stretched spring used as a curtain rod before but have not been able to find it at Home Depot or other hardware stores. I'll keep looking but in the mean time I'll try the truckers hitch idea with the string and see if I can get the tension up. If I still have problems I'll go with a different solution. Thanks again and happy sailing!!!

Joe

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bobmac
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Response Posted - 05/25/2005 : 16:42:50

>I replaced the woven wood door with a curtain to provide some
>privacy in the head area but have not had much luck keeping it up
>If I use a tight string it droops. If I use a twist or
>spring curtain rod between the compression post and the edge of the >bulkhead it comes down 

Jeez, sounds like a job for Viagara ? Huh ?

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 05/25/2005 : 17:25:30

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Duane Wolff
 I bought it Buzz -- I think if need be, I can always slice about 1/2" off the sides of the frame and still be okay. I'll let you know how it goes - maybe I'll even take some pictures this time
I noticed you keep the center cushion out of the forepeak, I like that idea. I think I'm going to follow suit.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I bought one too!

I have more or less permanently moved my v-berth insert to the span between the keel trunk and port settee. It has made an L shape there and provided a larger landing pad for my butt.

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 05/30/2005 : 16:17:57

Hi Frank & Duane,

I measured the door this weekend ... it is 15" square ... I bet we all ended up with the identical door!

Good luck with the installation ... let us know how it turns out.

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Response Posted - 05/30/2005 : 20:33:26

I bet you did not already have a door there did you? I was at the boat this weekend and now that I see how low my current door is I see that I will have to be very cunning to get the opening as high up as yours; which of course is the point because then you can get stuff off of the shelf!

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 05/31/2005 : 09:57:27

I bet you did not already have a door there did you? - Frank

You're right Frank ... there was nothing there when I got the boat ... it was a real pain to get into that storage space without the door.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 06/20/2005 : 22:49:24

Just an update buzz - We installed the door this weekend, and it was probably the best installation of anything we did. As usual, no photos. I have a photo (number one of what was supposed to be 20) of the beginning phase before anything was done and then forgot to take any as the job progressed.

Started at 7 am, Coast Guard Courtesy inspection at 9 and on the water by 10....

dw

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 06/21/2005 : 00:04:31

Just an update buzz - We installed the door this weekend, and it was probably the best installation of anything we did ... Duane

Excellent! That door sure makes it easier to store things under there, and I think it adds a nice teak accent, too ... 'glad the installation went well.

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