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John P
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Initially Posted - 06/19/2005 :  23:32:12  Show Profile  Visit John P's Homepage
Very nice condition. I went on advice from a family friend that has been sailing for about 72 of his 77 years of age (yes, it's true). All the things I looked for to indicate misuse or poor maint were not found. Yes, there were some spider-web cracks in the cockpit, but very very few, and yes the rudder was split (very early stage of delamination).

Now the only hangup is the hauling, assuming I go with this boat. I am 360 miles away and the boat is on a cradle. One hauler quotes 1200, plus $350 each time he has to use a hydraulic lift that he can provide. Another guy quotes $1000 if there is a hydraulic lift at each location.

I'm going to keep looking around her (Lake Champlain) to see if there is anything more local. Very nice boat though. Perhaps if it's still there in a month, I may go for it.

I am very excited now, but still quite reserved.

'84, C-25, SR/FK, #4663, "ILLUSIONS", Chazy, NY (Lake Champlain)
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 06/20/2005 :  11:47:59  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
is it w wing? Put out the call here, maybe somebody local will offer to haul it for you using their trailer. This is a great community of fellow sailers.

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John P
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Response Posted - 06/20/2005 :  14:54:01  Show Profile  Visit John P's Homepage
No wing, but everything is good, except for the rudder and the "Factory Installed Curtain Burner" I laugh every time I use that phrase!!

I am calling marinas and haulers today/tomorrow.

I will send out an SOS to the local people on this board as well, thanks for the advice. My brother (Rochester NY) said "just find a trailer and I will haul it" I love it! Just find a trailer! Like a needle in a haystack.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 06/20/2005 :  16:46:03  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
a trailer for a fin keel is a lot harder to find. But you'll love your fin, sails better and points higher than the wings (in my opinion).

Rudder can be repaired easily (as long as the core is not waterlogged) or you can upgrade and buy a new balanced rudder from Catalina Direct.


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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/20/2005 :  19:01:45  Show Profile
The new balanced rudder is a worthwhile upgrade--particularly if your original rudder is deteriorating. It's like power steering--much nicer for a long day at the helm.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 06/20/2005 :  22:36:35  Show Profile
A few years ago, I met a guy who transported sailboats from the US to Canada and he just made custom cradles out of 4x6's then secured them to his flat trailer. If the boat were already on a cradle, he would evaluate the sturdiness of the cradle and, if necessary, add more pads/legs.

When I bought my boat, I had it transported and it was transported on the cradle.

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roberoo
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Response Posted - 06/20/2005 :  23:00:18  Show Profile  Visit roberoo's Homepage
Just a thought get a low-boy equiptment hauler trailer and put the cradle on it and haul it that way. I was going to do that (I had a Ford Powerstroke excursion at the time) but we decided to sail her home (Huron, Ohio - Buffalo, NY).

Just my two cents. Oh also Insurance insurance and more insurance however you do it.

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Dave Laux
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Response Posted - 06/21/2005 :  07:17:52  Show Profile
Is the boat on navigable water? Connected to other bodies of water that then connect to the ocean? Can you take it home by water way travel? Dave

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John P
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Response Posted - 06/21/2005 :  08:31:48  Show Profile  Visit John P's Homepage
All very sound advice, thank you!

I have found a hauler that will move it on it's own cradle for $700 +/-. He has the low-bow type of trailer and only hauls boats less than 27' for the last 20 years, So I am happy with that.

The only way to take the boat by water would be to trail it 20 miles to Seneca lake, then take the canals, but I am a bit intimidated by that and do not have that type of time committment.

Although all is good with the boat, I would hate to have something break or quite while in the locks. Maybe some other time when I know the boat inside and out.

The man I am buying from is going on a journey himself and another couple up through the locks from Seneca to Ontario, then St. Lawrence, then down to Champlain, back to Seneca. I jokingly said to just deliver my boat on his way through. We laughed.

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