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frants
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Initially Posted - 05/31/2005 :  22:58:05  Show Profile  Visit frants's Homepage
OK,the -82 C25 is not rigged for the spinnaker. no downhaul - cleets for the sheats- winch etc. Does anyone have some pictures of a good way to get ready for flying the spinnaker? It's on it's way from Ullman. Also, can I change "direction" on a winch? ...and how do I get the alcohol stove up and running?
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 06/01/2005 :  08:48:30  Show Profile
This might get you a start...

[url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/manbro/pictures/pc22.gif"]C25 Parts Manual page 22[/url]

[url="http://www.catalina25-250.org/manbro/pictures/pc23.gif"]C25 Parts Manual page 23[/url]
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/01/2005 :  09:02:48  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage

Why do you think you need a new winch? How many do you have? Where are they? Most chutes only need a winch when something bad has happened and you are trying to get a full chute BACK to the top. All winches are clockwise all the time, changing that could cause the cosmos to unthread.

When you say spinnaker do you mean what you say or do you mean the girlyman left coast excuse for a spinnaker... the Asymetrical! If you really mean spinnaker then the spin pole needs an uphaul and a downhaul. The guy can cleat to the stern cleat and the sheet should never be cleated. If you mean Asymetrical (what I wish I had) then if you already have a headsail downhaul can't you simply move it to the chute before raising it? I would think two downhaul setups would be a hassle. As with most questions yours has hidden qualifiers. Which genoa track do you have? My 82 runs all the way back and an extra set of genoa cars are all I would need. If you have the later model then you may need to mount some cheek blocks or pad mount swivel blocks to get the sheets run far enough aft.

As for the stove, watch more Harry Potter movies and pay particular attention to the girl; she seems to know a spell for everything.
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 06/01/2005 :  11:15:42  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Heres how my full spinnaker is set up.

Spinnaker halyard block at top of mast

Spinnaker pole lift block just below steaming light

Stainless u-bolt through foredeck with block attached for pole downhaul.

2 additional genoa track slides way aft. Small genoa blocks on these for spinaker sheets. Jamb cleats for spinnaker sheets on the cockpit combing.

Jamb cleats on cabin top for pole lift and downhaul - these lines are led aft via deck organizers.

track on front of mast for adjustable height pole ring (not really needed, I think you could get by with a fixed position ring).

I never use any kind of winch with the spinnaker. You can hoist by hand easily.

Pole is fitted with 2 bridles - for the lift and downhaul.



Rigging a symetrical spinnaker right is a lot of effort. However once finished you'll run away from the asyms on the downwind legs.
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frants
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Response Posted - 06/01/2005 :  20:59:04  Show Profile  Visit frants's Homepage
Thank you for the feed back, the track runs all the way to the back. I thought of a seperate winch for the SPINNAKER sheets. What is the guy? I know all the names in danish and still learning the american lingo
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 06/02/2005 :  11:20:49  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
you don't need a winch for the spinnaker sheets. They are fairly lightly loaded on a boat our size. Your block will be well behind the regular cockpit combing winches (jib sheet winches). If I need a little extra pull, I just take a couple of turns around those.

Of course your spinnaker sheets should be 3/16 or even 1/8 line so its very light.
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/02/2005 :  12:44:54  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by frants</i>
<br />Thank you for the feed back, the track runs all the way to the back. I thought of a seperate winch for the SPINNAKER sheets. What is the guy? I know all the names in danish and still learning the american lingo
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The guy is the "sheet" that is holding the "tack" of the spinnaker against the pole. The sheet is the line coming from the free flying clew and is used to trim. The two lines switch jobs and names when you gybe the pole. A Harken ratchet block is perfect for the sheet and guy. They act like winches in terms of relieving strain on the line handler.
SO you need 2 1" genoa track slides (with springs for the bases)
Schaefer SCH504-73
Track Slider 1 in x 1/8 in.

and 2 3" Harken 109 swivel ratchet blocks that will connect to the slides.

Then you need all the pole hardware. (see manual pages above)
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 06/06/2005 :  12:47:01  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Take a look in the tech tips, I wrote a piece on that a while back. If you have any questions, feel free to email me.

Duane
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