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frejoh
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Initially Posted - 06/09/2005 :  22:03:25  Show Profile
Now here's a real low tech question. CinCHouse (a/k/a "The Admiral") says fenders may not be stored in the cabin while sailing, since they usually leak rainwater and make a mess. Can't argue with that... I used to lash them to the two stanchions forward of the shrouds. I see that WM sells a rack which attaches to the life lines or stanchions, and you just drop the fenders in.

So, what are folks preferred methods for enhancing this aesthetic aspect of your sailing? We never sail with our fenders just hanging off the side, right?




Fred Johnson
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 06/10/2005 :  07:19:59  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Your right, it's not cool to sail with fenders over the side. A fender rack is an alternative to stowing in a locker. My approach is stow two in the port cockpit locker and two more in the V berth locker as they don't get used often. The V berth locker can be made much easier to access by henging the lid on a fore and aft center cut.

Lifeline stowage racks would work well as long as they don't intefere too greatly with visibility and the esthetics are ok.

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bear
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Response Posted - 06/10/2005 :  07:37:44  Show Profile
My fenders are attached to the lifelines running along side the cabin. What I generally do is give them a quick wipe and let them hang into the companionway. No problems with slime or algae up here in N.Y.yet. I use the plastic attach devices that slide along the lifeline. Purchased hangers at WM.

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cathluk
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Response Posted - 06/10/2005 :  14:13:45  Show Profile
I just keep mine (only 2) in the port locker, but we don't have propane on our '97 so there's room in the starboard locker for the safety & other stuff.

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coldducks
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Response Posted - 06/10/2005 :  21:54:47  Show Profile
i was in walmart a year ago and saw these navy blue mesh bags for about 2 bucks. i thought, huh, i had seen mesh bags at the boat store to hold your fenders while sailing, for significantly more money. so i bought two of them. i also bought four of those clips that look like the clips that hold your keys to your belt loops. (kind of look like a u hook but with a spring closure). we just snap them over the life line and when we get off the dock, we just pull the fenders up and slide them in the mesh bag. no need to remove the fenders from their positions. when you return to the dock, just pull them out and drop me overboard.

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Capt. Kurt
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Response Posted - 06/10/2005 :  23:55:45  Show Profile
My sailing instructor told me years ago that sailing with your fenders hanging in the wind is like walking around with your fly down... Once I made that association, I always make sure to pull them in after leaving the dock!

Kurt
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 06/11/2005 :  03:12:24  Show Profile
I leave my fenders attached to the dock rather than the boat, likewise for the docklines, so I don't have to bother with them all season. I do carry a second clean set in a locker if I ever need a set for rafting or if I go to a different port.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 06/11/2005 :  09:36:02  Show Profile
Since I do not use my finders except when rafting up or in foregin ports, I hang them on the port aft berth wall behind the wet locker on the same hangers I use for all my lines.



Hangers from Homey Depot


Foreign port and rafting lines.


Other lines cockpit

Sorry do pictures of fenders, but will get some when Arlene leaves.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 06/11/2005 :  11:08:38  Show Profile
Jerry,

Having a flare kit next to the head is a good idea...There've been times where I've also needed rescue after a night of too much beer and spicy food!




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frog0911
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Response Posted - 06/11/2005 :  19:42:47  Show Profile
Don't drink beer, but do eat a lot of spicy food. Never thought about it, but could open the port and fire it thru the screen. Works for me.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 06/11/2005 :  20:26:18  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
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Jerry, how about a competition to figure out what all of those lines are for

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atgep
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Response Posted - 06/11/2005 :  20:40:40  Show Profile
I'll take the first stab at it.

The lines in the head are for docking

Tom.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 06/12/2005 :  14:34:09  Show Profile
Paul, Tom only knows that because he has been on the boat. If you or anyone else would like to amuse themselves be my guess, starting form left to right. Hint, Port side of PennyII.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 06/12/2005 :  14:48:55  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
The line layout....

Ok, Numbering them from outside to inside.
#1 ? Not a clue, perhaps a Genicka sheet
#2 Furler line (similar line to your post in 04 re rust on the shroud turnbuckle plates)
#3 Would guess this is a newish Jib Sheet
#4 ????
#5 ?????

Did you put in new sheets since 04?


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mday
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Response Posted - 06/13/2005 :  02:29:56  Show Profile

I have a couple blue mesh "fender bags" that are designed to hang
on the lifelines with a velcro flap that might work for you.
I find they clutter up the view from
the cockpit, though, so I usually don't use them. Each bag holds two
fenders. I think I got them from WM .... but not sure ... was a
while ago. You may be able to hang them off the stern as well as
the lifelines.

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 06/13/2005 :  05:15:44  Show Profile
1. Port Jib Sheet
2. Furler line
3. Spinaker halyard
4. Spinaker pole up halyard
5. Jib/Genny halyard

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 06/14/2005 :  10:52:36  Show Profile
Here are the fender storage pictures. Sorry about the hairy knee insert.





Now for those who ventured a guess and posted them. The port side lines are:

1. Drifter tack line
2. Roller furler
3. Jib haylard
4. # 1 Reefing line
5. Mainsail outhaul


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zebra50
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Response Posted - 06/14/2005 :  13:13:14  Show Profile
I have used the mesh bag from WM for a number of years. It holds all three fenders and could hold a 4th. I also use the WM fender clips that hook over the life lines which allows me to just drop two of the three into the bag without unhooking. You can see the bag on the port side hanging over the life line.

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At Ease
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Response Posted - 06/14/2005 :  14:22:45  Show Profile
I opted to line the sides of my slip with outdoor carpet (carpet, not plastic) made in a loop with a length of tubed foam insulation in the middle. This eliminated the need for fenders. I kept them stored in the port laz, out of sight and out of the way.

Having just read the first paragraph, let me try to expain. Lay out a long piece if carpet about a foot wide. Place the tubed foam in the middle, fold the carpet over (so it is now 6" wide), and nail it to the top of the inside of the slip.

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DanM
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Response Posted - 06/15/2005 :  08:14:05  Show Profile  Visit DanM's Homepage
Great idea! My slip is metal, but could run a line through the noodle and tie each end onto the posts.

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Steve Raffel
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Response Posted - 06/26/2005 :  11:22:55  Show Profile
Jerry, how well do the bundlers work outside with the rain and UV?

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 06/26/2005 :  23:39:28  Show Profile
I put the first one on as a test in May 04 and the rest in Aug. 04. They have shown no wear as of this date and are still as plyable as when new. I figured if I could get a year out of them it would be money well spent compared to the WM ones at 3X the price, by the time you buy all the other items.

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