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Auburn80
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Initially Posted - 06/28/2005 :  21:18:12  Show Profile
Seems like this is the time for a bunch of tiller posts :-))

I just received my new tiller. My original was not broken; just beat up, water damaged and badly drilled at some point early in its life.

I'd like some suggestions on what to use for a final finish.

TIA Everyone

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TRogers
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Response Posted - 06/28/2005 :  21:25:44  Show Profile
I used Cetol on mine when I did it last year. Seems to be holding up fine.

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Auburn80
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Response Posted - 06/28/2005 :  21:45:20  Show Profile
Tom,
was that the Satin or Clear? I have some Satin and I'm afraid the pigments in it might hide too much of the contrasting laminations.

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Turk
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Response Posted - 06/28/2005 :  21:48:28  Show Profile  Visit Turk's Homepage
I've finished mine with 3 coats of regular cetol followed up with 2 coats of cetol gloss. Beautifull and the grain shows very well.

Turk

P.s. Don't forget - no paint brushes - use foam brushes for a bubble free finish (yep, that's not dust, it's bubbles created by regular paint brushes).

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TRogers
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Response Posted - 06/28/2005 :  22:05:55  Show Profile
After a trip to my garage, the can says "Marine Light".

It's a transparent coating so the grain does show through. Came out looking pretty good in my opinion.

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dhunt
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Response Posted - 06/28/2005 :  22:10:39  Show Profile
Second and third the motion for Cetol . . . applied it last year to the exterior teak and hatch boards . . . just used it on the tiller. Great finish and it will last. I use better grade brushes and don't have any issues with bubbles.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 06/28/2005 :  22:24:48  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Polyurethane, 10 spray coats, last forever, people always compliment.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 06/28/2005 :  23:31:41  Show Profile
I have to agree with Frank. Polyurethane displays the grain much better than Cetol (which I had used the previous time on my tiller) I sanded it down to bare wood 5 years ago and applied several coats of polyurethane and it still looks gorgeous!
Derek

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 06/29/2005 :  09:43:43  Show Profile
Cetol here... the regular stuff.

I like the boat to look nice, but I've never figured on entering her in a boat show... so I go with a finish that's easy to maintain. There's not a drop of varnish on her.

Polyurethane would probably work just as well on the tiller.

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Auburn80
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Response Posted - 06/29/2005 :  14:09:38  Show Profile
Excellent input everyone. There were mentions of polyurethane sprayed on and others that did not mention. Would the brush-on work as well? Will also consider the Cetol since I want to do my hatch boards, hatch railings and handrails.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 06/29/2005 :  14:21:00  Show Profile
If you want to keep it looking nice and reduce your maintenance, keep it covered with a sunbrella or canvas cover when not in use.

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dhunt
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Response Posted - 06/29/2005 :  14:49:15  Show Profile
I've found that several very light coats of Cetol provides better clarity to the finish . . . The label implies that it should be used liberally - but I find that it gets cloudy if a coat is too thick

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Brooke Willson
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Response Posted - 06/29/2005 :  16:49:54  Show Profile
7 coats of West Marine Skipper varnish

Brooke

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bear
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Response Posted - 06/29/2005 :  17:04:39  Show Profile
Last winter I sanded down the tiller on "Brandy" and refinished it with three coats of Minwax Helmsman Spar "Clear Satin" Urethane, sanding between each coat. I used a brush and was very careful about
working out bubbles. It came out much better than I expected. This process and material was related to me by several individuals on the C250 forum.

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thaind
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Response Posted - 06/29/2005 :  20:22:48  Show Profile
I refinished my tiller with several coats of brushed on spar varnish. Present day spar varnish is basicly a polyurethane with UV inhibiters. I used it because I felt that it was tougher for regular wear than an oil based finish and being a liquid it can be thinned for the first few coats unlike a spray.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 06/29/2005 :  20:41:11  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Steve Milby</i>
<br />If you want to keep it looking nice and reduce your maintenance, keep it covered with a sunbrella or canvas cover when not in use.
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Hear, Hear!

I purchased a new tiller and the CD cover four years ago and it still looks brand new.

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mashedcat
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Response Posted - 06/30/2005 :  22:54:27  Show Profile
I'm very new to this boat, but have sailed thistles for years and found in the long run that brightwork that i had always held up best when finished with good quality spar varnish. I'm not sure what the p/o used on my new boat, but it looks like some sort of shellac with pigment. It looks like it was applied with a broom. But more than that the overall appearanceis not nice. I don't know if that's Cetol, but i sure don't like the result. Most brightwork experts I've read say 6 to 8 coats of high quality spar varnish (epifanes, or equvalent) if you don't like gloss finish do the final coat with satin.

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John G-
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Response Posted - 07/01/2005 :  00:32:15  Show Profile  Visit John G-'s Homepage
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This is one place I use spar varnish. I agree with Dave “MashedCat” that “…in the long run that brightwork that i had always held up best when finished with good quality spar varnish.”
I do cover the tiller with a Sunbrella cover. The one from CD is a bit more, $24, but it covers all the way over the rudder end. A light sanding with my Dewalt sander and a couple of coats of spar varnish and it looks new like the day I got it from Catalina Yachts.
I use "Armada satin" on all the other teak.
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